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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 7250611" data-attributes="member: 59057">I only use passive perception or investigation in two variants:Noticing general features or the lack thereoff. Passive perception is only used if you are doing extended tasks like standing watch and is never used in situations when an opposed check is more appropriate.Sneaking up from the front to get into a position to attack for example is an opposed check rather than a passive check. While being generally quiet will use passive stealth instead of an actual roll as soon as an opponent is in sight you may roll to stay hidden if you do aomething. That may be your action in the surprise round if you just stumble over each other.</blockquote>