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<blockquote data-quote="ro" data-source="post: 7255627" data-attributes="member: 6890747">The Passive Perception calculation is 10 + perception modifier. This is way too good. Why should the average PC with Perception proficiency and +1 Wisdom be automatically noticing everything DC 13 or better at level one?With Observant, this jumps up to DC 18 at level one for a variant human. If the PC actually cares about wisdom, it can easily be DC 20.But DCs are supposed to mean:DC 5 : Very EasyDC 10 : EasyDC 15 : MediumDC 20 : HardDC 25 : Very HardSo a level one PC, without trying, sees everything that is &quot;Hard&quot; to see? No way. And a normal one sees nearly everything Medium.A Normal, everyday non-perceptive fellow should probably notice very easy. Someone with Perception maybe Easy. Someone with Observant, Medium.Normal PC, +0 Wisdom : Very Easy DC 5Perceptive PC, +3 Wisdom +2 Proficiency : Easy DC 10Observant PC. +3 Wisdom, +5 Observant +2 Proficiency : Medium DC 15A regular passive skill check is then 5 + prof + mod rather than 10.If there would be disadvantage on the active check, subtract 5 from the passive. prof + modIf there would be advantage on the active check, add 5 to the passive. 10 + prof + modIf a PC should succeed 50% of the time on a non-modified DC 10 active check, a passive check shouldn't start at auto-success!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ro, post: 7255627, member: 6890747"] The Passive Perception calculation is 10 + perception modifier. This is way too good. Why should the average PC with Perception proficiency and +1 Wisdom be automatically noticing everything DC 13 or better at level one? With Observant, this jumps up to DC 18 at level one for a variant human. If the PC actually cares about wisdom, it can easily be DC 20. But DCs are supposed to mean: DC 5 : Very Easy DC 10 : Easy DC 15 : Medium DC 20 : Hard DC 25 : Very Hard So a level one PC, without trying, sees everything that is "Hard" to see? No way. And a normal one sees nearly everything Medium. A Normal, everyday non-perceptive fellow should probably notice very easy. Someone with Perception maybe Easy. Someone with Observant, Medium. Normal PC, +0 Wisdom : Very Easy DC 5 Perceptive PC, +3 Wisdom +2 Proficiency : Easy DC 10 Observant PC. +3 Wisdom, +5 Observant +2 Proficiency : Medium DC 15 A [B]regular passive[/B] skill check is then [B]5 + prof + mod[/B] rather than 10. If there would be [B]disadvantage[/B] on the active check, subtract 5 from the passive. [B]prof + mod[/B] If there would be [B]advantage[/B] on the active check, add 5 to the passive. [B]10 + prof + mod[/B] If a PC should succeed 50% of the time on a non-modified DC 10 active check, a passive check shouldn't start at auto-success! [/QUOTE]

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