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I don't want 5E, I want a definitive D&D (the Monopoly model)
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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 5691398"><p>First, I think defenders and detractors on both sides should take a deep breath and realize this is just a matter of opinion. Everyone is entitled to like, not like or be indifferent to a given edition. They are also entitled to have an impression of the edition even if others don't share it. </p><p> </p><p>I can see how someone may look at 4E and say it is pretty much the same as previous editions, but I can also see how someone would look at it and say it is a huge break (I personally would be in the later camp). What people are really saying is, "It feels different/the same to me". </p><p> </p><p>I can also see how someone would say 4E is different from previous editions and it rocks because of it (in fact most people I meet who like it, praise it for taking such a bold design direction). </p><p> </p><p>IMO it feels like a very different game in play to me. Everything from flavor to mechanics just feels different. We could debate it all day, but proving one poster online right or wrong won't make a single difference in the popularity of 4E. </p><p> </p><p>One thing that does bother me is I see both sides starting to assume the worst about each other (not directed at you Hussar....this just got me thinking on that subject). From the pro-4E crowd I hear them call the critics "closed minded or affraid of anything new", from the anti-4E crowd I hear them call 4E folk "unimaginative players of WOW or balance freaks" (or similar insults). I don't think any of this does the people making the remarks any good. Why should I care if Hussar loves 4E and it does the same thing for him that previous editions did? Two people can watch the same movie and have two completely different, but equally valid, reactions. Same with games. </p><p> </p><p>------------</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 5691398"] First, I think defenders and detractors on both sides should take a deep breath and realize this is just a matter of opinion. Everyone is entitled to like, not like or be indifferent to a given edition. They are also entitled to have an impression of the edition even if others don't share it. I can see how someone may look at 4E and say it is pretty much the same as previous editions, but I can also see how someone would look at it and say it is a huge break (I personally would be in the later camp). What people are really saying is, "It feels different/the same to me". I can also see how someone would say 4E is different from previous editions and it rocks because of it (in fact most people I meet who like it, praise it for taking such a bold design direction). IMO it feels like a very different game in play to me. Everything from flavor to mechanics just feels different. We could debate it all day, but proving one poster online right or wrong won't make a single difference in the popularity of 4E. One thing that does bother me is I see both sides starting to assume the worst about each other (not directed at you Hussar....this just got me thinking on that subject). From the pro-4E crowd I hear them call the critics "closed minded or affraid of anything new", from the anti-4E crowd I hear them call 4E folk "unimaginative players of WOW or balance freaks" (or similar insults). I don't think any of this does the people making the remarks any good. Why should I care if Hussar loves 4E and it does the same thing for him that previous editions did? Two people can watch the same movie and have two completely different, but equally valid, reactions. Same with games. ------------ [/QUOTE]
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