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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5692145" data-attributes="member: 22779">You mean like 3e?  Which was pretty much completely not backwards compatible with earlier editions?  Even modules brought forward from earlier editions had to be completely reworked in order to be run.Never minding things like B/E/C/M/I - let's see you play your Immortal character in AD&D.Funnily enough though, I'm rebuilding my World's Largest Dungeon for 4e and it's not exactly difficult to go from 3e to 4e.  First region looks pretty much the same in both editions - numbers might change a bit, but, other than that, nope, pretty much the same.Or, if you want a side by side comparison, look at the Pathfinder and 4e versions of Zeitgeist.  It's not like they are massively different.  In fact, they're pretty darn close.You honestly think SF and fantasy were more popular in the 80's than they are now?  Really?  Quick, name the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films" target="_blank"> top grossing movie of all time </a> - 9 of the top ten are SF or Fantasy and ALL of them (the fantasy movies) have been made in the past ten years.We have SF on prime time TV now - and it's top spot.  We have cable channels devoted to nothing BUT SF and Fantasy.  The idea that genre fiction was more popular in the past than it is now is not true at all.  Every element of genre fiction - print, movies, TV, video games, shows that SF and Fantasy are on the top spots of pretty much everything.  Good grief, I remember the 80's.  We could go an entire year without an SF movie.  And fantasy movies?  Other than some really really crap B list movies, fergettaboutit.  Now, we get genre movies every year, and that's movies plural.  Heck, look at this summer.  How many genre movies did we have?  Six, seven?  Between comic book movies and straight up SF and fantasy, we're in the land of milk and honey as far as geekdom goes.See, the presumption that so many gamers seem to have is that the gamer population hit some sort of peak back in the 80's and we've done nothing but decline since then.  But, there's nothing to actually support that.  Gen Con this year posted record attendance.  En World has done nothing but grow, year on year, year after year.  We've now got TWO companies producing core D&D material on a regular basis, when, for the past thirty years, we only had one.How is this evidence of shrinkage?</blockquote>

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