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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6345943" data-attributes="member: 18">In AD&D, particularly 2E, particularly with C&T, Fighters are pretty great.In 3.XE/PF, they're actually fine until you get to about level 6 or so. They're certainly still playable until 10, at least, if you have a solid build and/or the casters aren't going all-out (and the DM provides decent magic weapons/armour for you).Tons of splatbooks make no difference to the matter, though - everything that makes casters OP is pretty core.As for do you stick with it, as the OP asks, well, depends how bad it is, for me. I'm rarely married to a very narrow vision of what I want to play (I would consider "has to be a specific class" very narrow), so what I usually do is, is find something that I want to play that works. If there's nothing, I don't play. I think having a really narrow mind on what you want to play is somewhat problematic in RPGs in general. I mean, can't argue with taste, but it causes issues, in my experience.(If it's 3.5E, you could always play a Warblade and pick the non-magical paths if you wanted a Fighter who sucked less.)PS - If you can convince the DM to drop the iterative penalties on attacks in 3.XE/PF, that goes a long way to keeping Fighters and the like "in the fight", as it were, as well as speeding up the game a great deal. Bonus points if you get him to kill off "Full Attack" as an action.</blockquote>