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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 6345976" data-attributes="member: 158">I know there's some contention on this at the paizo forums (especially with Pathfinder Unchained announced) but I still contend the PF Fighter, from experience, is a very powerful and versatile class for front line fighting. For 3e and 3.5, a bit less so, but i've never known a Sword and Board or great-weapon fighter to be useless compared to a &quot;CoDzilla&quot; on the front line. Most important thing: if your DM is allowing the party to dictate the tone of fights and when they have them at all times, allowing the cleric or druid to &quot;nova&quot; or prepare only the specific spells for buffing that they use, then yes, the fighter will pale compared to a high level magic user who is prepped to be a front line warrior. However, spells run out. Righteous might and enlarge person and bull strength only last for rounds or minutes, not hours. Two or three fights in, they're spent or close to it -- or if it's a surprise fight it takes them two or three rounds to get that way. A fighter's feats usually have a casting time of a free action. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Henry, post: 6345976, member: 158"] I know there's some contention on this at the paizo forums (especially with Pathfinder Unchained announced) but I still contend the PF Fighter, from experience, is a very powerful and versatile class for front line fighting. For 3e and 3.5, a bit less so, but i've never known a Sword and Board or great-weapon fighter to be useless compared to a "CoDzilla" on the front line. Most important thing: if your DM is allowing the party to dictate the tone of fights and when they have them at all times, allowing the cleric or druid to "nova" or prepare only the specific spells for buffing that they use, then yes, the fighter will pale compared to a high level magic user who is prepped to be a front line warrior. However, spells run out. Righteous might and enlarge person and bull strength only last for rounds or minutes, not hours. Two or three fights in, they're spent or close to it -- or if it's a surprise fight it takes them two or three rounds to get that way. A fighter's feats usually have a casting time of a free action. ;) [/QUOTE]

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