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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2324699" data-attributes="member: 19675">Yes if...the real tracks are plainly visible to a 0 level commoner...there is someone else in the party who is able to track...there is no way the creatures being tracked could have or would have gone in that direction (party just came from that direction; ranger is tracking someone known to be mortally afraid of the dark and is headed into a dark cavern)...he has given the people for whom he is tracking any reason to doubt his abilities or his intent  ("You want me to track my wife for you so you can hunt her down and kill her?  OK!")...or any other reason exists why persons around that ranger wouldn't believe him going in that direction.In the case of a warrior in combat with another warrior, he is facing another person who is trained to evaluate his opponent's prowess.  If he's just going nuts to try and kill his opponent, he's not using his brain, so he'd auto-fail the sense motive check.  However, if he is the prototypical intelligent warrior (like Odysseus), he would be trying to size up his opponent before the first blow was ever struck...perhaps even upon meeting him for the first time.  Thus- Bluff vs Sense Motive.And for the record, if my PC encountered a mage known to be the evil equivalent of Merlin, Mordenkainen or Elminster, etc., and he launched a 5d6 Fireball at me, I'd definitely be trying to figure out why.  Bluff and Sense Motive again.Ditto if I were the DM adjudicating a similar situation.Why?  Because someone who is obviously powerful enough to be a famous mage is going to throw around fireballs bigger than 5d6- he is trying to make me believe something that is patently untrue.</blockquote>

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