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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 2327019" data-attributes="member: 5890"><p>You want to fool someone into thinking that you are worse than you are.</p><p></p><p>If you don't use the bluff skill to mislead people, then what the hell do you use it for?</p><p></p><p>The ranger makes a bluff check. If noone else can read the tracks, and he's tracking for his friends, there's a -5 to the sense motives. If everyone else can see tracks plain as day, there's a +10 to 20 added.</p><p></p><p>The thief makes a bluff check. Chances are the sense motive is at 0 (or -5 if there are ominous noises coming from the other side of the door). If he fails, his buddies get "you think so-and-so is hiding something from you".</p><p></p><p>The fighter makes a bluff check. Chances are his foe really DOES want to believe that he's gonna win. -5 to the sense motive. If he keeps landing telling blows and not getting hit though, that might change up to the +20... If he fails, "you don't think so-and-so is quite as bad as he's making out to be".</p><p></p><p>Seriously - how would it NOT be a bluff check? Just because a certain character (ie a fighter) might not be good at it??</p><p></p><p></p><p>The difference is between not trying your best AND LETTING PEOPLE KNOW YOU'RE NOT TRYING YOUR BEST, and not trying your best and MAKING PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE TRYING YOUR BEST.</p><p></p><p>Your buddy is gonna look over your shoulder and spot the error. And ask you why you did that. You failed your bluff check - your error was not convincing. Perhaps, if you'd been smart, you might have done something like use the MAX macro as if it were a function, or used some function you know that your buddy doesn't know. Used something subtle to slip the error past him, and make him genuinely not know what happened.</p><p></p><p>Or even just knocked your coffee mug on the floor as you changed the symbol, distracting him.</p><p></p><p>That sort of stuff. You know, bluffing, lying and successfully fooling someone, rather than standing in front of them yelling "I'm no good, I can't fight! See! I stabbed a rock! That's how bad I am!".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 2327019, member: 5890"] You want to fool someone into thinking that you are worse than you are. If you don't use the bluff skill to mislead people, then what the hell do you use it for? The ranger makes a bluff check. If noone else can read the tracks, and he's tracking for his friends, there's a -5 to the sense motives. If everyone else can see tracks plain as day, there's a +10 to 20 added. The thief makes a bluff check. Chances are the sense motive is at 0 (or -5 if there are ominous noises coming from the other side of the door). If he fails, his buddies get "you think so-and-so is hiding something from you". The fighter makes a bluff check. Chances are his foe really DOES want to believe that he's gonna win. -5 to the sense motive. If he keeps landing telling blows and not getting hit though, that might change up to the +20... If he fails, "you don't think so-and-so is quite as bad as he's making out to be". Seriously - how would it NOT be a bluff check? Just because a certain character (ie a fighter) might not be good at it?? The difference is between not trying your best AND LETTING PEOPLE KNOW YOU'RE NOT TRYING YOUR BEST, and not trying your best and MAKING PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE TRYING YOUR BEST. Your buddy is gonna look over your shoulder and spot the error. And ask you why you did that. You failed your bluff check - your error was not convincing. Perhaps, if you'd been smart, you might have done something like use the MAX macro as if it were a function, or used some function you know that your buddy doesn't know. Used something subtle to slip the error past him, and make him genuinely not know what happened. Or even just knocked your coffee mug on the floor as you changed the symbol, distracting him. That sort of stuff. You know, bluffing, lying and successfully fooling someone, rather than standing in front of them yelling "I'm no good, I can't fight! See! I stabbed a rock! That's how bad I am!". [/QUOTE]
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