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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2331665" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>Yep, and that would be a pretty easy bluff roll to succeed at.</p><p></p><p></p><p>From another Prime Material Plane? OK. Heavy mods to succeed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See Magic Missile answer, supra.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What level? 15th+, he's still one of the best in his field <em>in the world...for all time</em>. Unless he actively changes more than spell level (using Disguise or spells to alter his visage), there's still a good chance he'd be recognized. A level 15+ character isn't Joe Schmoe- he's Mike Tyson. He's a legend.</p><p></p><p>Less than 9th? Unlikely to be recognized for WHO he is, but Sense Motive can still (potentially) reveal his relative power.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Heavy mods to succeed at Bluff, depending on the spell. Change species or just his face? But here you've gone beyond just lowering spell level- he has invested a great deal of energy in changing how he is percieved.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You know, the last time Pres. Bush changed his tie, I still recognized him.</p><p></p><p>It takes more than a minor costume change to make someone less recognizable. A powerful mage's robe is PROBABLY a magic item- unlikely that he has more than one of it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except that that doesn't comport with Profession as written.</p><p></p><p>Someone with a high Profession (soldier) skill would have recieved the neccessary training to "use the tools of the trade, how to perform the profession's daily tasks, how to supervise helpers, how to handle common problems." However, he may not have ever seen combat. Combat isn't the daily task of the soldier. Drills, training, cleaning, keeping watch and otherwise maintaining preparedness- these are the soldier's daily tasks.</p><p></p><p>While he would be familiar with how tactics have been used historically, and will have performed drills, he may not have any concept of how those abstract tactics translate visually onto the battlefield in real time with all those other distractions (smoke, fire, screams of the dying, etc.)</p><p></p><p>If you play defense in football, you get to look at page after page of "X's and O's" that diagram plays. You will practice those plays. But until you get into a game, your ability to distinguish between a sweep and a reverse or a screen is suspect.</p><p></p><p>(For the record, Alexander's tactic was the inspiration for the football play known as the sweep.)</p><p></p><p>Calling it Profession (Field Marshal) is no better- its just a needless subset of (soldier) that is better reflected by looking at achievement and levels. And the Field' Marshal's daily routine is determining training regimens, controlling logistics, making battle plans- not actually going into battle.</p><p></p><p>And even a <em>Field Marshal</em> may never have seen battle.</p><p></p><p>When Spartacus led the slave revolt against Rome, his army of Gladiators slaughtered several legions of Rome's army. Why? Because the leaders of those particular legions were completely untested. They held their rank by virtue of their social status, not because of their military skill. Spartacus, trained in battle, trained in the gladiatorial pits, crushed those legions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 2331665, member: 19675"] Yep, and that would be a pretty easy bluff roll to succeed at. From another Prime Material Plane? OK. Heavy mods to succeed. See Magic Missile answer, supra. What level? 15th+, he's still one of the best in his field [I]in the world...for all time[/I]. Unless he actively changes more than spell level (using Disguise or spells to alter his visage), there's still a good chance he'd be recognized. A level 15+ character isn't Joe Schmoe- he's Mike Tyson. He's a legend. Less than 9th? Unlikely to be recognized for WHO he is, but Sense Motive can still (potentially) reveal his relative power. Heavy mods to succeed at Bluff, depending on the spell. Change species or just his face? But here you've gone beyond just lowering spell level- he has invested a great deal of energy in changing how he is percieved. You know, the last time Pres. Bush changed his tie, I still recognized him. It takes more than a minor costume change to make someone less recognizable. A powerful mage's robe is PROBABLY a magic item- unlikely that he has more than one of it. Except that that doesn't comport with Profession as written. Someone with a high Profession (soldier) skill would have recieved the neccessary training to "use the tools of the trade, how to perform the profession's daily tasks, how to supervise helpers, how to handle common problems." However, he may not have ever seen combat. Combat isn't the daily task of the soldier. Drills, training, cleaning, keeping watch and otherwise maintaining preparedness- these are the soldier's daily tasks. While he would be familiar with how tactics have been used historically, and will have performed drills, he may not have any concept of how those abstract tactics translate visually onto the battlefield in real time with all those other distractions (smoke, fire, screams of the dying, etc.) If you play defense in football, you get to look at page after page of "X's and O's" that diagram plays. You will practice those plays. But until you get into a game, your ability to distinguish between a sweep and a reverse or a screen is suspect. (For the record, Alexander's tactic was the inspiration for the football play known as the sweep.) Calling it Profession (Field Marshal) is no better- its just a needless subset of (soldier) that is better reflected by looking at achievement and levels. And the Field' Marshal's daily routine is determining training regimens, controlling logistics, making battle plans- not actually going into battle. And even a [I]Field Marshal[/I] may never have seen battle. When Spartacus led the slave revolt against Rome, his army of Gladiators slaughtered several legions of Rome's army. Why? Because the leaders of those particular legions were completely untested. They held their rank by virtue of their social status, not because of their military skill. Spartacus, trained in battle, trained in the gladiatorial pits, crushed those legions. [/QUOTE]
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