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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 2331893" data-attributes="member: 20805">TreyGenerals and Tactics: D20 is not designed for mass battle scenarios. RAW does not cover the instances of complex battle command and control and the minor implementation {Feat: Leadership} is of small scale. No single current skill can be used in a tactical manuever such as described. It is the combination of multiple skill checks, some of which dont exist in the RAW.Disquise vs Bluff: A character would disguise himeself to appear to be someone he is not. A character would bluff someone to appear to have different abilities than they actually have. Or doing something that they are not {feint}. The two skills can be used together to appear as an unknown, minor mage.  My take is that the more proficient you become, the smoother and easier the task appears. Take typing on a keyboard for example. A trained typist can attempt to appear less skilled, but the habitual positioning of the fingers on the keys can give them away. A high level mage may cast a single a single bolt magic missile, but a discerning observer would be able to tell that that spell was cast at a lower power than it could have been. What skills exist, in RAW, for discerning observers?    Spot, which is used primarily for noticing physical things such as a sleight of hand manuever.  Sense Motive, which is used primarily for noticing the intent of the observed character.Which one makes more sense to use in this circumstance? Sense Motive.What skill is used to foil Sense Motive? Bluff.If the Mage wished to appear less skilled to the observer, that would be a bluff attempt. If the observer had Spellcraft and was observing the power of the spells, that bluff attempt would have a circumstance bonus.IMHO, most of the above sidetrack thread on bluffing comes from campaigns were social skills are neglected and or ignored.Back on track, Egress asked for a RAW answer to whether a character can voluntarily not gain a benefit from a feat *PER THE RAW*. The answer, to which he has yet to repond to indicate satisfaction, is a resounding No. The RAW does not address this matter as use of the mechanic is pointless in play. There are already RAW answers for convincing someone of an untruth, and those rules work quite nicely.As a side note on the Reputation, Eberron has it spelled out that characters become known as they reach higher levels, but ThirdWIzard is right in that arguments based on that have little or no bearing on the point at hand.Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled thread. Somedays I think having a CP2020 screen name makes it harder to be taken seriously around here <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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