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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ThirdWizard" data-source="post: 2331925" data-attributes="member: 12037">In a world without TV or radio or really any way for anyone to know what he looks like unless they've seen him before...What if you had never actually seen his face? I don't understand. If the great Blue Robed Mage Rath walks around in green, why on earth is anyone going to know it's him unless they've met him before or have had reason to see his picture before?Neither with Bluff. Because in the case of directing armies, you arn't doing anything but directing. You arn't using any kind of Charisma or any kind of body language, or anything relating to yourself in the least. You're directing an army to move somewhere. They probably don't even know why they're going where they're going. I see no reason at all to use Bluff to determine if a trick you thought of works.Profession on the other hand is your general ability to do things within a given field. A baker knows how to make good cakes, a librarian knows how to help people find books, a general knows how to position an army to take advantage of military tactics. Bluff doesn't even come into play. Why would the coach use a Bluff check to determine how good his team is at performing said "sweep?" Would his influence and ability to teach them to work together have much more influence over the maneuver than his personal ability at trickery? Indeed, wouldn't his Profession (coach) skill proove to be the important thing in knowing when to use the "sweep" and when not to use it? [Whereas Knowlege (football) would allow him to know the basics of how the "sweep" maneuver works.]He'll be better at it than a 3rd Rogue who specializes in fast talking local town guards and has a Bluff +9 as opposed to his cross class Bluff of +3 ability.</blockquote>

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