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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2332725" data-attributes="member: 19675">Yes.If he is a ruler, his face will be on coinage, official art, depicted by actors in staged plays in travelling shows, etc.If he's merely powerful...eliminate the coinage.  But, on the other hand, he may be on wanted posters.If he was a (real world) knight, his coat of arms will be known to ANYONE who knows the heraldry system of Europe.  For this reason, knights who had been dishonored or were in disgrace often carried shields that were unmarked or blacked out.  A powerful samurai's crest, and possibly even his family swords would be equally recognizable.  A ronin would have to divest himself of clothing, armor and weaponry to remain anonymous.Like I mentioned before, the faces of both Wyatt Earp and Buffalo Bill Cody were well known outside of their primary areas of habitation because their amazing feats made them the subject of poplular fiction, complete with illustrations.It depends on what actually makes him recognizable.  If he ALWAYS walks around in blue robes, wearing green robes MIGHT make an effective disguise.  On the other hand, if he also carries the Eye of Vecna in a crystal locket, they might call him the "Blue Robed Mage" rather than "Rath, High Disciple of Vecna" to avoid being killed, and a mere change of robes won't cover that fact completely.  (And a change of wardrobe would be more like Disguise than Bluff).After all- Tycho Brahe was pretty famous for a scientist, partly because he wore a prosthetic nose made of a silver/copper alloy.  Were I to see a man in Europe in the late 1500's with a silvery nose, I might assume it was Tycho.  I might be wrong, but "Silver nose" would have to feed me a good line.Or perhaps he's identifiyable for other reasons.  My mom taught music in a ghetto school in New Orleans.  There were around 1600 students...one of whom was hispanic.  You could pick him out from across the stadium.  Everyone knew when he was absent.  I was on the flip side of that.  I was one of 2 black kids at a school in Kansas (and I was the short one) so everyone knew who I was, even if they hadn't met me.  Later on, I was the first black to graduate from my High School.  Today, kids who have only seen my picture from 19 years ago 20' up on a wall recognize me as "The black guy!"  (There have been other black graduates, but my picture is in a sea of predominantly white faces.)He wouldn't.  All the coach can do during a game is put plays in and scream.  During practice, he'd use Profession (coach) to impart to his players how to run a sweep or how to defend it- giving his players the tools to execute the play or decipher that the play is being used against them.The check while the game is in play would be a Sense Motive check, and it would be by each player on the field.  Why?  Because a sweep (and all of its related plays) is about misdirection- the blockers don't only block other players- their presense and motion obscures the actions of smaller players...who may then continue to run (inside, outside or in between the blockers), pass the ball away, etc.  The defensive players have to read the movement and decide where the heck the ball is actually going.To bring it back to the inspiration for the sweep:  The Battle of Arbela.  Alexander's Cavalry (with him riding lead) rode parallel to Darius' assembled Persian forces, and thus concealed his javelineers and slingshot specialists who ran alongside the cavalry.  Darius ordered his cavalry to parallel Alexander's cavalry to prevent the Greeks from flanking his forces...even as that cavalry almost left the field of battle.  When Alexander turned his cavalry at about 165degrees to charge the Persians, the concealed javelineers and slingshot specialists devastated the isolated Persian cavalry, and the Greeks were thus able to flank the Persians at will.Darius and his generals had no clue as to what was going on, and it cost them utter defeat.  As far as they were concerned, Alexander was either trying to flank them or flee the battle.Had they pierced Alexander's subterfuge, Greece would have been ruined.Bluff vs Sense motive covers that mechanic elegantly.That those 2 skills are not part of everyone's class skill list isn't my fault.  Personally, I see those as everyman skills, as basic to human existence as climbing or running.I mean, who hasn't tried at least a little fib, or had to try to catch someone in a lie?Not necesarily.  If the generals of Rome had been better at "Sense Motive," Spartacus would have been a historical footnote, as opposed to a legend.  The professional soldiers of Rome that conquered the world lost to one man leading a group of condemned criminals from all walks of life...in battles where the Legionaires had a 3 or 4-1 manpower advantage, weapon and armor advantage, and supply line advantage.Never underestimate the skills of a true grifter.  There's a famous case of a guy who sold shares in a depleted mine out in California.  He claimed it produced gold, silver, lead, diamonds, rubies...anything of value...despite the geological impossibility of it all.  And when potential investors (doctors, psychologists,lawyers- rich folk of all kinds) came out to visit the site, the mine invariably produced what he said it would.  He was caught, tried, and found innocent...and on the way out of the courtroom, was selling shares in his mine to the jury.Another one sold the Eiffel Tower for scrap metal...3 times.Bluff and Sense Motive are about manipulating and understanding the way people think.  I don't think that is especially related to ANY particular class, despite the way the game was designed.</blockquote>

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