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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2336297" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>Its a Bluff check by the Allies to make the troop/equipment movements more believable to the Axis powers, based on their Sense Motive check. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Its a classic tactical level Bluff. They were "making the untrue plausible," they engaged in misdirection, just at a tactical, not personal level. Deciding to move Axis troops in response to Allied movements puts them "at significant risk." Had the Germans pierced the deception, Operation Overlord might have turned out very differently.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1) Its a problem because the system does not allow much leeway for the intelligent, skilled warrior who doesn't have levels in rogue. "Essential" skills like Profession (soldier/warrior/gladiator, etc) and Knowledge (military tactics) should be class skills for any of the warrior classes- not that any warrior has to take them. There is no way to model the career marine who rises through the ranks and is a tactical genius. His KS will always be stuck at cross-class levels, ditto his Prof. skill levels.</p><p></p><p>RAW- a Bard or Wizard could take KS (military tactics) and always be better at it than a warrior, and EVERY core class except Barbarian and Fighter have Profession as a class skill- so any of them could be a better professional soldier. Does this seem right?</p><p></p><p>Simple solution- Make those Prof & KS into class skills for warrior classes.</p><p></p><p>2) Despite being a minor Prussian noble by birth, Richthofen never advanced beyond the rank of Rittmeister- equivalent of Captain- by choice. He was repeatedly asked to retire from flight duties, but insisted that his skill in combat and training the elite pilots of Germany's Jasta 11 made his presense at the front neccessary.</p><p></p><p>3) Many military forces make it difficult for any enlisted man, however talented a warrior, to advance to the status of an officer. However, every commander of note has studied the tactics of the ages. Even in modern military tactics classes, things like the phalanx and "crossing the T" are taught (however briefly) because they provide the fundamentals for learning the tactics of the present.</p><p></p><p>Learning military tactics is just that- LEARNING. Its a knowledge skill.</p><p></p><p>Applying that knowledge is something else, however. While I know a lot about military tactics, I would have a snowball's chance in...Pheonix, Arizona...of actually being able to make useful tactical decisions in real time.</p><p></p><p>There is a difference, too, between being a good soldier and being a good leader. Some people are simply not fit to lead others into combat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 2336297, member: 19675"] Its a Bluff check by the Allies to make the troop/equipment movements more believable to the Axis powers, based on their Sense Motive check. Its a classic tactical level Bluff. They were "making the untrue plausible," they engaged in misdirection, just at a tactical, not personal level. Deciding to move Axis troops in response to Allied movements puts them "at significant risk." Had the Germans pierced the deception, Operation Overlord might have turned out very differently. 1) Its a problem because the system does not allow much leeway for the intelligent, skilled warrior who doesn't have levels in rogue. "Essential" skills like Profession (soldier/warrior/gladiator, etc) and Knowledge (military tactics) should be class skills for any of the warrior classes- not that any warrior has to take them. There is no way to model the career marine who rises through the ranks and is a tactical genius. His KS will always be stuck at cross-class levels, ditto his Prof. skill levels. RAW- a Bard or Wizard could take KS (military tactics) and always be better at it than a warrior, and EVERY core class except Barbarian and Fighter have Profession as a class skill- so any of them could be a better professional soldier. Does this seem right? Simple solution- Make those Prof & KS into class skills for warrior classes. 2) Despite being a minor Prussian noble by birth, Richthofen never advanced beyond the rank of Rittmeister- equivalent of Captain- by choice. He was repeatedly asked to retire from flight duties, but insisted that his skill in combat and training the elite pilots of Germany's Jasta 11 made his presense at the front neccessary. 3) Many military forces make it difficult for any enlisted man, however talented a warrior, to advance to the status of an officer. However, every commander of note has studied the tactics of the ages. Even in modern military tactics classes, things like the phalanx and "crossing the T" are taught (however briefly) because they provide the fundamentals for learning the tactics of the present. Learning military tactics is just that- LEARNING. Its a knowledge skill. Applying that knowledge is something else, however. While I know a lot about military tactics, I would have a snowball's chance in...Pheonix, Arizona...of actually being able to make useful tactical decisions in real time. There is a difference, too, between being a good soldier and being a good leader. Some people are simply not fit to lead others into combat. [/QUOTE]
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