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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 1584497" data-attributes="member: 158">From my standpoint, I don't like them, especially with &quot;vanilla&quot; D&amp;D, but don't really have an active dislike of the concept.I get that it reintroduces the whole &quot;my gods are better than your gods&quot; concept, but past that, it feels sort of... empty to me. Very hard to explain. It gives back the conflict of cultures, but it would seem to take away the give-and-take relationship that is between a cleric and his god. How can one disagree with &quot;a force&quot;, or have a relationship with &quot;a philosophy&quot;? It's why I always focused more on the &quot;Jedi Code&quot; aspect of the Jedi in Star Wars, than the &quot;will of the force&quot; aspect. Ultimately, the &quot;will of the force&quot; is your own will, and you're basically just using a superpower, rather than following what's &quot;right or wrong.&quot; (It's why I hated the conclusion of the New Jedi Order, also. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Henry, post: 1584497, member: 158"] From my standpoint, I don't like them, especially with "vanilla" D&D, but don't really have an active dislike of the concept. I get that it reintroduces the whole "my gods are better than your gods" concept, but past that, it feels sort of... empty to me. Very hard to explain. It gives back the conflict of cultures, but it would seem to take away the give-and-take relationship that is between a cleric and his god. How can one disagree with "a force", or have a relationship with "a philosophy"? It's why I always focused more on the "Jedi Code" aspect of the Jedi in Star Wars, than the "will of the force" aspect. Ultimately, the "will of the force" is your own will, and you're basically just using a superpower, rather than following what's "right or wrong." (It's why I hated the conclusion of the New Jedi Order, also. :)) [/QUOTE]

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