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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DarkMaster" data-source="post: 1587340" data-attributes="member: 16362">You can't. Magic and gods cannot be rationalized. But if you some kind of explanation that our limited human brain can understand you can easily say that when the divine caster pray in the morning, his god give him a portion of himself or portion of energy, Then the cleric can do whatever he wants with that energy through out the day. Through the prayer the cleric connect to his god and infuse himself with the god's energy. The higher the cleric is the more effective his prayer is and the better his soul accumulate the divine energy. The cleric is not a direct pipe to the god. he is a representant of the power on the prime material plane and through dedicated prayer he gain a finite amount of energy that he should use to preach, convert and execute the God's will on the prime material plane.  Now I have a problem with godless cleric. Since they don't beleive in anything greater than them and they don't understand arcane magic (which could be a mortal creation) where to they get their energy from? The collective toughs or small invisible particle floating in the air (think the force).I personnally think this godless thing was to accomodate the real life non believer. I myself have strong doubt about the existence of God, and will probably be questioning myself until I get the final answer (death). But IMHO it doesn't keep the road. If you tell me that a priest gain your power from Elemental spirit, fine, but that someone gain spell from the energy that is broadcasted by the travelling people or by all the nurses and doctor healing people is a bit far fetched and much more difficult to "rationalize" than having a greater being giving you energy and code of conduct. I tried to have those Good and Evil energy in one of my world and it failed miserably because the clerics  were deciding what is good and evil and eventually everything was neutral. If nobody is there to enforces what is good from evil, the whole things fall apart.</blockquote>

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