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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bryk" data-source="post: 6370261" data-attributes="member: 6776803">I personally find the rules for stealth to be the exact level of precise.  You need some level of obscurity, low level for skulkers/wood elves, a medium person for lightfoot halflings, and heavy obscurity for the rest.Wood Elf :"Mask o f the Wild. You can attempt to hide even whenyou are only lightly obscured by foliage, heavy rain,falling snow, mist, and other natural phenomena. " - I'm guessing this DOES NOT include low light alone. but behind a tree would be sufficient.In terms of what Mike refers to, giving disadvantage, I personally only feel that applies when there is only low level.  If the creature/target saw you when you fired, then yes, they are going to know if you pop behind the same tree, you aren't hidden.  However, if you pop behind a different tree/object... maybe.  Giving a DM rule to control this makes perfect sense.If a creature keeps hitting you when they are in darkness(heavy obscurity) with darkvision, and you are 100 feet away with a torch and can't see them.  They should always have advantage with a successful hide.  Heck as a DM I would always give them advantage due to not being seen on obscurity alone (no check needed).The fuzziness I feel really isn't there, between dim light causing low level of obscurity."Unseen Attackers and TargetsCombatants often try to escape their foes’ noticeby hiding, casting the invisibility spell, or lurkingin darkness.When you attack a target that you can’t see, you havedisadvantage on the attack roll. This is true whetheryou’re guessing the target’s location or you’re targetinga creature you can hear but not see. If the target isn’t inthe location you targeted, you automatically miss, butthe DM typically just says that the attack missed, notwhether you guessed the target’s location correctly.When a creature can’t see you, you have advantage onattack rolls against it.If you are hidden—both unseen and unheard—whenyou make an attack, you give away your location whenthe attack hits or misses.""The most fundamental tasks of adventuring—noticingdanger, finding hidden objects, hitting an enemy incombat, and targeting a spell, to name just a few—rely heavily on a character’s ability to see. Darknessand other effects that obscure vision can prove asignificant hindrance.A given area might be lightly or heavily obscured. Ina lightly obscured area, such as dim light, patchy fog,or moderate foliage, creatures have disadvantage onWisdom (Perception) checks that rely on sight.A heavily obscured area—such as darkness, opaquefog, or dense foliage—blocks vision entirely. A creaturein a heavily obscured area effectively suffers from theblinded condition (see appendix A).The presence or absence of light in an environmentcreates three categories of illumination: bright light, dimlight, and darkness.Bright light lets most creatures see normally. Evengloomy days provide bright light, as do torches, lanterns,fires, and other sources of illumination within aspecific radius.Dim light, also called shadows, creates a lightlyobscured area. An area of dim light is usually aboundary between a source of bright light, such asa torch, and surrounding darkness. The soft lightof twilight and dawn also counts as dim light. Aparticularly brilliant full moon might bathe the landin dim light.Darkness creates a heavily obscured area. Charactersface darkness outdoors at night (even most moonlitnights), within the confines of an unlit dungeon or asubterranean vault, or in an area of magical darkness.""HidingWhen you try to hide, make a Dexterity (Stealth) check. Untilyou are discovered or you stop hiding, that check’s total iscontested by the Wisdom (Perception) check of any creaturethat actively searches for signs of your presence.You can’t hide from a creature that can see you, and if youmake noise (such as shouting a warning or knocking over avase), you give away your position. An invisible creature can’tbe seen, so it can always try to hide. Signs of its passagemight still be noticed, however, and it still has to stay quiet.In combat, most creatures stay alert for signs of dangerall around, so if you come out of hiding and approacha creature, it usually sees you. However, under certaincircumstances, the Dungeon Master might allow you to stayhidden as you approach a creature that is distracted, allowingyou to gain advantage on an attack before you are seen.Passive Perception. When you hide, there’s a chancesomeone will notice you even if they aren’t searching. Todetermine whether such a creature notices you, the DMcompares your Dexterity (Stealth) check with that creature’spassive Wisdom (Perception) score, which equals 10 + thecreature’s Wisdom modifier, as well as any other bonusesor penalties. If the creature has advantage, add 5. Fordisadvantage, subtract 5.For example, if a 1st-level character (with a proficiencybonus of +2) has a Wisdom of 15 (a +2 modifier) andproficiency in Perception, he or she has a passive Wisdom(Perception) of 14.What Can You See? One of the main factors in determiningwhether you can find a hidden creature or object is how wellyou can see in an area, which might be lightly or heavilyobscured, as explained in chapter 8"All from Player Basic Rules.</blockquote>

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