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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Feeroper" data-source="post: 5883866" data-attributes="member: 83317">Completely agree. The red box had alot of potential due to the obvious nostalgia, but I feel they dropped the ball on that one. I liked the rest of the essentials line, but the red box was a pretty big misstep if you ask me. It also had some pretty big rules discrepencies between the itself and the rest of the Essentials line.  However, the Beginners Box was amazing. Right from picking it up you could feel the value in it, it is packed with tons of good quality stuff and the books inside are great introductories to the game. I also find it is a great product for a PF player who wants to try their hand at DMing for the first time. I think the cardboard pawns were a stroke of genius and the pre-gen portfolios really helped teach a newbie the game as well as pack in the flavour. It really is the royal treatment as far as beginners sets go. If you were happy with the BB, then you shouldnt have any reservations about picking up the PF core rulebook and future supplements if you so desire - the Advanced Players Guide is a hearty recomendation as well as the Bestiary. You'll have enough for a long time with just those books, but if you want to expand further, or get some great adventures yuo should check out their Campaign Setting line, Player Companion Line and certainly the Adventure Path line (a subscribtion to the AP line is a good idea if you enjoy their AP's). All that stuff is optional, and quite a bit of it is heavily Golarion specific, but if your into it, there is alot of stuff you can pick and choose from should you feel the urge. You wont feel like you are just re-buying you're 3.5 stuff again, paizo has done alot to really make this game their own.</blockquote>

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