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<blockquote data-quote="Telperion" data-source="post: 1318962" data-attributes="member: 15711"><p>One thing first: the discussion is about <em>3rd party publishers</em>. WotC is not a <em>3rd party publisher</em> in this instance since they did the Core Books. </p><p></p><p>Okay, you do have a valid question there, and the answer is simple:</p><p>he wants a character that has social skills without actually having to portray them with roleplaying. The PrC that was discussed earlier was a bad example of <em>3rd party publishers</em> trying to bring in a "new & improved" way of handling social encounters by removing roleplaying and inserting "kewl powers". It's why I banned the PrC, and told the player to stick to Core and SL products. And I have to admit that probably most players around aren't familiar with Scarred Lands, because it's brand new compared to, say, Forgotten Realms. Still, that's what I have givent them and it's what they should use. </p><p></p><p>The bottom line is that since most of the players are fairly new to D&D (I only have one AD&D veteran) there's a whole new world and gamesystem to explore. Except for one player they haven't played in an "evil campaign" before and they are not familiar with all the rules, spells, feats, skills or magical items. That leaves a whole lot to tinker around with. It's just this one player, who has played D&D in it's previous incarnations, who isn't happy with sticking to material that I have provided. The rest of them are happily looking trough material that is all new to them, and searching for ideas that even I (a veteran of many campaigns, lots of DMing and about 16 years of RPG) haven't thougth of. </p><p></p><p>This is why I enjoy introducing new players to D&D. Of course once the first campaign is over the best of them usually stick around and have plenty of fun years with me, while the rest move on to other things. Which is to say that age and experience varies quite a lot in my group. Not that I mind, although it does bring the occasional problem since I don't have a "consistent" group for no more than a couple of years at a time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Telperion, post: 1318962, member: 15711"] One thing first: the discussion is about [I]3rd party publishers[/I]. WotC is not a [I]3rd party publisher[/I] in this instance since they did the Core Books. Okay, you do have a valid question there, and the answer is simple: he wants a character that has social skills without actually having to portray them with roleplaying. The PrC that was discussed earlier was a bad example of [I]3rd party publishers[/I] trying to bring in a "new & improved" way of handling social encounters by removing roleplaying and inserting "kewl powers". It's why I banned the PrC, and told the player to stick to Core and SL products. And I have to admit that probably most players around aren't familiar with Scarred Lands, because it's brand new compared to, say, Forgotten Realms. Still, that's what I have givent them and it's what they should use. The bottom line is that since most of the players are fairly new to D&D (I only have one AD&D veteran) there's a whole new world and gamesystem to explore. Except for one player they haven't played in an "evil campaign" before and they are not familiar with all the rules, spells, feats, skills or magical items. That leaves a whole lot to tinker around with. It's just this one player, who has played D&D in it's previous incarnations, who isn't happy with sticking to material that I have provided. The rest of them are happily looking trough material that is all new to them, and searching for ideas that even I (a veteran of many campaigns, lots of DMing and about 16 years of RPG) haven't thougth of. This is why I enjoy introducing new players to D&D. Of course once the first campaign is over the best of them usually stick around and have plenty of fun years with me, while the rest move on to other things. Which is to say that age and experience varies quite a lot in my group. Not that I mind, although it does bring the occasional problem since I don't have a "consistent" group for no more than a couple of years at a time. [/QUOTE]
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