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<blockquote data-quote="Murrdox" data-source="post: 674606" data-attributes="member: 10131">I don't have the entire PHB memorized, but I do like to PLAY by the rules.A couple of the people I play with suffer from the &quot;That doesn't make sense&quot; syndrome.&nbsp; I hate this thing.Basically, anytime I quote a rule or something that says something can or can't be done, this guy just says &quot;That doesn't make sense&quot; and an argument ensues, even when I show him what the freaking rule says.Attacks of opportunity were and still are a headache with him.&nbsp; He still thinks he should get them when he shouldn't, and he still thinks other things shouldn't get them when they should.A nice example is the &quot;5-foot step&quot; rule... namely, that you can take a 5-foot step out of a threatened area without taking an AoO.&nbsp; His thinking was namely that a Wizard shouldn't be able to step 5 feet away from a fighter and cast a spell in his face... any fighter is going to attempt to block him from doing so.Even though I explained that you CAN do that... you just have to &quot;ready&quot; an action to prevent the Wizard from backing up... he didn't buy it.&nbsp; Even though I tried to explain that the Wizard is using all the time he could usually use to move 30 feet to carefully evade the fighter and back up only 5 feet (1/6 his normal movement) he didn't buy it.So to make him and this other guy happy, we came up with a rule that if you want to take a 5-foot step out of a threatened area, you have to make opposed RFL saves to do so.&nbsp; If you fail, you can't back away without taking an AoO.Dumb and Unnecessary?&nbsp; I think so.&nbsp; But anyways, it seems like almost every session he wants to re-write some rule because it &quot;doesn't make sense&quot;.&nbsp; I loved the one where I was playing a Cleric, and I called out my initiative to the DM was &quot;22&quot; (I had a +2 init from dex, and I rolled a 20).&nbsp; He promptly said, &quot;But you're wearing full plate, you only get a max +1 dex bonus!&nbsp; You CAN'T get a 22!&quot;.&nbsp; I told him that the max dex bonus only applies to AC, and nothing else, and he promptly said &quot;That doesn't make sense&quot; and that it should apply to everything involving dex.&nbsp; Sighing, I explained that doing so would muck up RFL saves, Ranged attack bonuses, Dex based skills... and finally he gave up and realized he was being stupid.Is there any nick-name for this kind of a player?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Murrdox, post: 674606, member: 10131"] I don't have the entire PHB memorized, but I do like to PLAY by the rules. A couple of the people I play with suffer from the "That doesn't make sense" syndrome. I hate this thing. Basically, anytime I quote a rule or something that says something can or can't be done, this guy just says "That doesn't make sense" and an argument ensues, even when I show him what the freaking rule says. Attacks of opportunity were and still are a headache with him. He still thinks he should get them when he shouldn't, and he still thinks other things shouldn't get them when they should. A nice example is the "5-foot step" rule... namely, that you can take a 5-foot step out of a threatened area without taking an AoO. His thinking was namely that a Wizard shouldn't be able to step 5 feet away from a fighter and cast a spell in his face... any fighter is going to attempt to block him from doing so. Even though I explained that you CAN do that... you just have to "ready" an action to prevent the Wizard from backing up... he didn't buy it. Even though I tried to explain that the Wizard is using all the time he could usually use to move 30 feet to carefully evade the fighter and back up only 5 feet (1/6 his normal movement) he didn't buy it. So to make him and this other guy happy, we came up with a rule that if you want to take a 5-foot step out of a threatened area, you have to make opposed RFL saves to do so. If you fail, you can't back away without taking an AoO. Dumb and Unnecessary? I think so. But anyways, it seems like almost every session he wants to re-write some rule because it "doesn't make sense". I loved the one where I was playing a Cleric, and I called out my initiative to the DM was "22" (I had a +2 init from dex, and I rolled a 20). He promptly said, "But you're wearing full plate, you only get a max +1 dex bonus! You CAN'T get a 22!". I told him that the max dex bonus only applies to AC, and nothing else, and he promptly said "That doesn't make sense" and that it should apply to everything involving dex. Sighing, I explained that doing so would muck up RFL saves, Ranged attack bonuses, Dex based skills... and finally he gave up and realized he was being stupid. Is there any nick-name for this kind of a player? [/QUOTE]

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