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<blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 678396" data-attributes="member: 8158">Assuming that list is all-inclusive, it's pretty odd IMO that they provide a class progression for undead (the Ghoul, Mummy, and Shadow), but no Vampire. Not only is it pretty safe to say that it would be one of the more sought-after monster classes, but it also lends itself very well to the whole concept behind monster classes, that a creature starts with a modest set of abilities and evolves into a more powerful creature over time. It's not hard to envision. At the low-levels, the abilities are those of a Vampire Spawn (mostly physical) then as it matures into a full-fledged Vampire it starts to gain the supernatural powers like the ability to summon animals, assume a gaseous form, and dominate wills. Ultimately, the vamp gets the abilities presented in the Vampire Lord web enhancement on the WotC website. Seems to make sense to me. Wonder why it wouldn't make the cut for SS?And how does one advance as a flesh golem anyway? Neck-bolt upgrades? Perhaps I'm just the narrow-minded type, but I think the line for monster classes should be drawn at creatures that lack sentience. I can only suppose PC golems actually manage to get a brain (even if it is Abby Normal's).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felon, post: 678396, member: 8158"] Assuming that list is all-inclusive, it's pretty odd IMO that they provide a class progression for undead (the Ghoul, Mummy, and Shadow), but no Vampire. Not only is it pretty safe to say that it would be one of the more sought-after monster classes, but it also lends itself very well to the whole concept behind monster classes, that a creature starts with a modest set of abilities and evolves into a more powerful creature over time. It's not hard to envision. At the low-levels, the abilities are those of a Vampire Spawn (mostly physical) then as it matures into a full-fledged Vampire it starts to gain the supernatural powers like the ability to summon animals, assume a gaseous form, and dominate wills. Ultimately, the vamp gets the abilities presented in the Vampire Lord web enhancement on the WotC website. Seems to make sense to me. Wonder why it wouldn't make the cut for SS? And how does one advance as a flesh golem anyway? Neck-bolt upgrades? Perhaps I'm just the narrow-minded type, but I think the line for monster classes should be drawn at creatures that lack sentience. I can only suppose PC golems actually manage to get a brain (even if it is Abby Normal's). [/QUOTE]

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