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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 2495414" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>I just don't seem to be able to abide to this interpretation.</p><p></p><p>At the very basic, my idea is:</p><p></p><p>Lawful = favors laws, rules and conservation</p><p>Chaotic = favors change, freedom and innovation</p><p></p><p>(of course this is just the start, there is a lot beyond this...)</p><p></p><p>Instead I tend to associate individualism with evil and sense of community with good. Furthermore, I think good/evil is a lot about the <em>means</em> one is using to achieve his/her goals.</p><p></p><p>Now that I have read lots of posts in this thread, I wonder how much our ideas were influenced by the very early alignments of D&D, which IIRC were only Lawful, Neutral and Chaotic. In those times, it seemed to me that Lawful was commonly associated with being good people interested in the common good, and Chaotic were bad people interested in their own business only, but I may be wrong (at least that was the interpretation of many gamers when I played those old editions in the 90s).</p><p></p><p>When I started DMing 3ed, some of our players had never RPed at all before, and I remember that I explained alignments with this idea in mind... none of them has ever played CN as a clueless selfish individual, much less an insane! Apart the fact that insanity can be of schizofrenic type (with some 'ruleless' behaviour) but also of manic type (which may theoretically relate to lawfulness).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 2495414, member: 1465"] I just don't seem to be able to abide to this interpretation. At the very basic, my idea is: Lawful = favors laws, rules and conservation Chaotic = favors change, freedom and innovation (of course this is just the start, there is a lot beyond this...) Instead I tend to associate individualism with evil and sense of community with good. Furthermore, I think good/evil is a lot about the [I]means[/I] one is using to achieve his/her goals. Now that I have read lots of posts in this thread, I wonder how much our ideas were influenced by the very early alignments of D&D, which IIRC were only Lawful, Neutral and Chaotic. In those times, it seemed to me that Lawful was commonly associated with being good people interested in the common good, and Chaotic were bad people interested in their own business only, but I may be wrong (at least that was the interpretation of many gamers when I played those old editions in the 90s). When I started DMing 3ed, some of our players had never RPed at all before, and I remember that I explained alignments with this idea in mind... none of them has ever played CN as a clueless selfish individual, much less an insane! Apart the fact that insanity can be of schizofrenic type (with some 'ruleless' behaviour) but also of manic type (which may theoretically relate to lawfulness). [/QUOTE]
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