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<blockquote data-quote="FreeTheSlaves" data-source="post: 2495456" data-attributes="member: 9952">But really where do these laws, rules &amp; conservation spring from? I argue that they spring from social groupings because laws &amp; rules are unnecessary for the individual by themself; only when people collect together is there a need to establish the protocols for interaction. Conservation is the belief in preserving the previous &amp; current traditions &amp; norms, but why do these traditions &amp; norms exist? They exist because they were of value to previous generations &amp; they have been passed down from person to person; &amp; they can only be a norm if it the dominant way within a social grouping.Likewise I argue that change, freedom &amp; innovation spring from &amp; are for the individual. Change requires a pioneer to reveal a new way for others to adopt &amp; seldom would a society be pioneering en masse; no I think change requires an individual pioneer. Freedom from what? I say freedom from others, i.e. putting the self before the social. Innovation is the opposite of conservatism, it builds on an existing or inherited thing rather than maintaining it; it is the spring of which change draws from and it requires someone to not accept as wholely satisfactory that which exists.What I am trying to do is boil down the base concept that then flows out to the alignment descriptions; but I'm having trouble theorizing the neutral alignment in the law to chaos axis, I think it is method to complement morality but I'm not sure.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FreeTheSlaves, post: 2495456, member: 9952"] But really where do these laws, rules & conservation spring from? I argue that they spring from social groupings because laws & rules are unnecessary for the individual by themself; only when people collect together is there a need to establish the protocols for interaction. Conservation is the belief in preserving the previous & current traditions & norms, but why do these traditions & norms exist? They exist because they were of value to previous generations & they have been passed down from person to person; & they can only be a norm if it the dominant way within a social grouping. Likewise I argue that change, freedom & innovation spring from & are for the individual. Change requires a pioneer to reveal a new way for others to adopt & seldom would a society be pioneering en masse; no I think change requires an individual pioneer. Freedom from what? I say freedom from others, i.e. putting the self before the social. Innovation is the opposite of conservatism, it builds on an existing or inherited thing rather than maintaining it; it is the spring of which change draws from and it requires someone to not accept as wholely satisfactory that which exists. What I am trying to do is boil down the base concept that then flows out to the alignment descriptions; but I'm having trouble theorizing the neutral alignment in the law to chaos axis, I think it is method to complement morality but I'm not sure. [/QUOTE]

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