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<blockquote data-quote="FreeTheSlaves" data-source="post: 2496904" data-attributes="member: 9952"><p>On topic I no longer have any issues with CN with any of my players. I run the simulationist aspect of d&d in quite a heavy-handed & even manner; heavy-handed in that I will not look too hard to find a reason to save a character from the logical consequenses of their actions. So if a CN character, like any character, decides to frivolously break laws & tear away from the party they could find themselves:</p><p></p><p>- outside the protection of the law (very bad)</p><p>- being wanted by the law (just a nuisance)</p><p>- less game time than they could otherwise expect because their fair % gets eroded by the fact that what they do is less fun for me as the dm (bad)</p><p>- abandoned by the pcs for the logical reason they wouldn't want to associate with bad news (extremely bad)</p><p></p><p>The recent most example is a NE character that assasinated a helpful cleric due to wounded pride. This was fine within the campaign but the pcs no longer have easy access to clerical help, & have a suspectful report gathering dust in the official files which could provide strong leads if the NE character ever draws silly attention to himself again. The other pcs would likely dob him in if ever they found out, they know it would advance their social standing & curry favour to solve that crime (& they wouldn't feel comfortable with an assassin in their midst).</p><p></p><p>Finally, newly introduced characters come in 1 level lower than if they had died & been raised; so 2 levels lower than their previous character. This rewards sensible characters & punishes silly play because nothing hurts a player more than being the party gimp.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FreeTheSlaves, post: 2496904, member: 9952"] On topic I no longer have any issues with CN with any of my players. I run the simulationist aspect of d&d in quite a heavy-handed & even manner; heavy-handed in that I will not look too hard to find a reason to save a character from the logical consequenses of their actions. So if a CN character, like any character, decides to frivolously break laws & tear away from the party they could find themselves: - outside the protection of the law (very bad) - being wanted by the law (just a nuisance) - less game time than they could otherwise expect because their fair % gets eroded by the fact that what they do is less fun for me as the dm (bad) - abandoned by the pcs for the logical reason they wouldn't want to associate with bad news (extremely bad) The recent most example is a NE character that assasinated a helpful cleric due to wounded pride. This was fine within the campaign but the pcs no longer have easy access to clerical help, & have a suspectful report gathering dust in the official files which could provide strong leads if the NE character ever draws silly attention to himself again. The other pcs would likely dob him in if ever they found out, they know it would advance their social standing & curry favour to solve that crime (& they wouldn't feel comfortable with an assassin in their midst). Finally, newly introduced characters come in 1 level lower than if they had died & been raised; so 2 levels lower than their previous character. This rewards sensible characters & punishes silly play because nothing hurts a player more than being the party gimp.:) [/QUOTE]
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