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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 9432871" data-attributes="member: 1465">I am never afraid to openly warn the players &quot;this foe is beyond any of you&quot; when they face anything with CR much higher than theirs but still beatable. I don't mean to just give them hints or make them roll a check to understand this, I mean to flat-out tell them that their characters have the inequivocable feeling that they have no chance. Think of it as not different from someone asking if they can try to go over a mountain in one jump.If they still don't get it and choose to fight it anyway, you don't need stats but you can make them up if you really want to or use for example some deity stats, but I don't believe you should surrender to players' requests that everything must have stats, no game ruleset actually require that. Keep in mind that if you ever give stats to something, then theoretically it can be beaten in combat. You still have workarounds anyway, for instance a deity-like character might never really die permanently.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 9432871, member: 1465"] I am never afraid to openly warn the players "this foe is beyond any of you" when they face anything with CR much higher than theirs but still beatable. I don't mean to just give them hints or make them roll a check to understand this, I mean to flat-out tell them that their characters have the inequivocable feeling that they have no chance. Think of it as not different from someone asking if they can try to go over a mountain in one jump. If they still don't get it and choose to fight it anyway, you don't need stats but you can make them up if you really want to or use for example some deity stats, but I don't believe you should surrender to players' requests that everything must have stats, no game ruleset actually require that. Keep in mind that if you ever give stats to something, then theoretically it can be beaten in combat. You still have workarounds anyway, for instance a deity-like character might never really die permanently. [/QUOTE]

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