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<blockquote data-quote="Ace" data-source="post: 1640874" data-attributes="member: 944">Uh No. D&amp;D 3x as written is as you put it &quot;mission-oriented dynamic problem-solving scenarios&quot;&nbsp; but it isn't always played that way other RPG's are about different things -- FREX Sorcerer is about &quot;how far would you go to get what you want played in a narrative enviroment&quot; -- Malestrom (by the late lamented Huburis games) is about telling stories in a universe of wonder -- Universalis is a game about creating stories --- and there are others that are harder for me to describe like Trollbabe, Donjon and Rune Buffy interestingly is a &quot;mission-oriented dynamic problem-solving scenarios&quot; type of game but it uses 1d10 -- and the GM never need roll anything during a typical game -- everThe math in Buffy is limited to a simple chart --- Ok 2 charts with maybe ten entries. I once ran a climactic battle scene with 10 vampires and&nbsp; a machine gun nest against 4 high powered PCs -- the battle took about 10 minutes real time and was quite satisfactory prep time for me is about ten to twenty minutes for an evening of Buffy or Angel -- all I need to pencil and paper (and sometimes cut and paste for a stat block) 3x OTOH is a lot more complex-- preping the game in accordance with the rules takes at least an hour&nbsp; and requires at least half that to set up tactical choice charts and so on. Actually playing a combat especially at high levels quite often takes several hours The number of options is staggering and maintaining challenge and balance is difficult I am of the dislikes math cowd to-- don't get me wrong I can use it -- heck I can use GURPS Vehicles without a spreadsheet&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; but thats not why I am there --</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ace, post: 1640874, member: 944"] Uh No. D&D 3x as written is as you put it "mission-oriented dynamic problem-solving scenarios" but it isn't always played that way other RPG's are about different things -- FREX Sorcerer is about "how far would you go to get what you want played in a narrative enviroment" -- Malestrom (by the late lamented Huburis games) is about telling stories in a universe of wonder -- Universalis is a game about creating stories --- and there are others that are harder for me to describe like Trollbabe, Donjon and Rune Buffy interestingly is a "mission-oriented dynamic problem-solving scenarios" type of game but it uses 1d10 -- and the GM never need roll anything during a typical game -- ever The math in Buffy is limited to a simple chart --- Ok 2 charts with maybe ten entries. I once ran a climactic battle scene with 10 vampires and a machine gun nest against 4 high powered PCs -- the battle took about 10 minutes real time and was quite satisfactory prep time for me is about ten to twenty minutes for an evening of Buffy or Angel -- all I need to pencil and paper (and sometimes cut and paste for a stat block) 3x OTOH is a lot more complex-- preping the game in accordance with the rules takes at least an hour and requires at least half that to set up tactical choice charts and so on. Actually playing a combat especially at high levels quite often takes several hours The number of options is staggering and maintaining challenge and balance is difficult I am of the dislikes math cowd to-- don't get me wrong I can use it -- heck I can use GURPS Vehicles without a spreadsheet ;) but thats not why I am there -- [/QUOTE]

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