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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 2807397" data-attributes="member: 2067">D&amp;D isn't European.It's American.It's a hodge-podge mixture of the exotic and strange all coming together in a common meeting ground of opportunity to carve a slice of the pie for itself. It's a melting pot. It throws in the kitchen sink *first.* And then it tries to work out what you get.I mean, you can make it European. You can give it some Alps and a Riviera or three and maybe a dozen or so failed empires and call it good. Forbid or change everything that doesn't fit with the record. But I guess I wonder what you get out of that. Why have it that way? What do you get? I mean, obviously, a more Eurocentric campiagn, but why do you want a more Eurocentric campaign? That's not snark, just a rhetorical inquiry. I've never seen much of a point in it. But maybe I'm just not that overly impressed with Europe to see what it gives me in a game other than a couple goofy accents and some obvious vague distant origin.I don't think D&amp;D gains much of anything by pretending to be Europe-centered. It's not. It's cosmopolitain. It's not a product of Tolkien. It's a product of a bunch of game-playing Americans who thought Tolkien was pretty sweet. It's related to JRR like America is related to Great Brittian.Your game is free to be Eurocentric, I suppose. But that won't sell me a PHB. Monks and Ninjas and Pirates will sell me a PHB. Or Skull &amp; Bones. Or OA.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 2807397, member: 2067"] D&D isn't European. It's American. It's a hodge-podge mixture of the exotic and strange all coming together in a common meeting ground of opportunity to carve a slice of the pie for itself. It's a melting pot. It throws in the kitchen sink *first.* And then it tries to work out what you get. I mean, you can make it European. You can give it some Alps and a Riviera or three and maybe a dozen or so failed empires and call it good. Forbid or change everything that doesn't fit with the record. But I guess I wonder what you get out of that. Why have it that way? What do you get? I mean, obviously, a more Eurocentric campiagn, but why do you want a more Eurocentric campaign? That's not snark, just a rhetorical inquiry. I've never seen much of a point in it. But maybe I'm just not that overly impressed with Europe to see what it gives me in a game other than a couple goofy accents and some obvious vague distant origin. I don't think D&D gains much of anything by pretending to be Europe-centered. It's not. It's cosmopolitain. It's not a product of Tolkien. It's a product of a bunch of game-playing Americans who thought Tolkien was pretty sweet. It's related to JRR like America is related to Great Brittian. Your game is free to be Eurocentric, I suppose. But that won't sell me a PHB. Monks and Ninjas and Pirates will sell me a PHB. Or Skull & Bones. Or OA. [/QUOTE]

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