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<blockquote data-quote="3catcircus" data-source="post: 2229405" data-attributes="member: 16077"><p>Ah - there is the difference between your group and mine. Our DM is very good about things, but there is another player in our group who, even when the DM arbitrates something weeks in advance of the game and everyone in the group has had a chance to discuss and debate it, he'll still bitch and moan. Basically, unless a houserule specifically benefits *his* character, he doesn't like it. If a WoTC or other d20-published rule doesn't specifically benefit *his* character, he bitches and moans and actively writes up houserules and tries to push the DM to accept it as "better" than the core rules.</p><p></p><p>We were looking for a good set of rules for ships and stuff since some of the guys in the group wanted to have a ship and be pirates. We specifically looked at Corsair! and purchased a copy. So - this player decided that he didn't like all of the rules in Corsair and started house-ruling them. One of the houserules upped the damage that the weapons do. Another changed the turning rules to use the "sides-n-points" of a hexmap instead of using compass points. Yet a third houserule changed the stats for all of the ships to something closer to what he thought they should be, based upon his reading a historical sailing ship book. When we used them for the first time, the PCs creamed the NPCs in two rounds of combat without the NPCs getting off a single shot. Half the group (including him) decided that the combat was too quick and wasn't any fun. After all of this, he actually had the nerve to say "Well - it is evident that whoever came up with the rules in Corsair is f'ed up and didn't play-test them..." Gee - *maybe* if *you* didn't f with the rules that the author came up with in the first place...</p><p></p><p>I dunno - I'm about fed up with the rest of my group since no one else has the sack to actively challenge him and allow the DM to not have to arbitrate his rantings. If it weren't for the fact that, otherwise, he is a good friend (as are the rest of the guys in my group), I'd simply go find another group - especially since they are D&D snobs and refuse to play anything else (except for one guy who is willing to play anything.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="3catcircus, post: 2229405, member: 16077"] Ah - there is the difference between your group and mine. Our DM is very good about things, but there is another player in our group who, even when the DM arbitrates something weeks in advance of the game and everyone in the group has had a chance to discuss and debate it, he'll still bitch and moan. Basically, unless a houserule specifically benefits *his* character, he doesn't like it. If a WoTC or other d20-published rule doesn't specifically benefit *his* character, he bitches and moans and actively writes up houserules and tries to push the DM to accept it as "better" than the core rules. We were looking for a good set of rules for ships and stuff since some of the guys in the group wanted to have a ship and be pirates. We specifically looked at Corsair! and purchased a copy. So - this player decided that he didn't like all of the rules in Corsair and started house-ruling them. One of the houserules upped the damage that the weapons do. Another changed the turning rules to use the "sides-n-points" of a hexmap instead of using compass points. Yet a third houserule changed the stats for all of the ships to something closer to what he thought they should be, based upon his reading a historical sailing ship book. When we used them for the first time, the PCs creamed the NPCs in two rounds of combat without the NPCs getting off a single shot. Half the group (including him) decided that the combat was too quick and wasn't any fun. After all of this, he actually had the nerve to say "Well - it is evident that whoever came up with the rules in Corsair is f'ed up and didn't play-test them..." Gee - *maybe* if *you* didn't f with the rules that the author came up with in the first place... I dunno - I'm about fed up with the rest of my group since no one else has the sack to actively challenge him and allow the DM to not have to arbitrate his rantings. If it weren't for the fact that, otherwise, he is a good friend (as are the rest of the guys in my group), I'd simply go find another group - especially since they are D&D snobs and refuse to play anything else (except for one guy who is willing to play anything.) [/QUOTE]
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