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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 2954843" data-attributes="member: 35788">Thanks for the thoughts, one and all!Definately a good thought, although it does make the FS a bit like the DS in that it becomes a different class based upon deity/dragon.  Of course, only at high levels so that's a non-issue, really.  Besides, I suppose Rangers and Rogues all get "big" choices in their class abilities .. so, really just disregard this paragraph. Yet, because I hate deleting thoughts .. I'll leave it here for you all to pick abart anyway!With regard to the FS, what would you think of a special ability along the lines of this:  You may choose any 7th-level or lower spell in one of your chosen dieties granted domain as a spell-like ability usable two times per day.  No components are required, althugh all appropriate XP costs must be paid normally as if it were a spell being cast.This would add the possibility of adding another spell to the FS's limited list in addition to making the ability in line with the deity worshipped.  Is 7th level too high a cap?  Not high-enough?  To general and will be abused?This also raises good questions, and I'd not thought of looking at art as the reason for it.  May be onto something there as far as justification for writing in the ability in the CD.  However, I also agree with the gills/xorn thought, too.  You raise some interesting points, thank you.Yes, this is a correct analysis.  I have no problem with the "power" of wings.  The spell Fly has typically been known by the party for a long time at this level, so the type of movement doesn't particularily bother me.  It is a distaste of flavor.  I don't like the thought of humans/elves (unless they are true fey)/xephs/maenads/orcs/etc with wings out their backside!  This is especially true for dwarves.Player 1: "Moradin's Crap, Thurgard!  You can't fit through this tunnel any more without folding up those wings."Player 2: "No duh, Borin.  I don't know why Moradin cursed me with these blasted things.  A dwarf with wings is about as useful as a giant with a ladder."Player 1:  "I could always try and cast 'Remove Curse' on you so you could be back to normal."Player 2: "Nah, maybe I'll go out and seek a Temple of Nerull and see if there are any vampires hanging out.  I'm sure a good permanent level-drain might have an effect."Player 1: "Aren't you afraid of running the risk of becoming a vampire, Thurgard?"Player 2: "Acht, no, Boris.  I'm Moradin's Favored Soul, Not Nerull's!"Player 1: "Yeah, in a way it makes me wish you were one of those deeper dwarves with an LA.  Then maybe you could try and work your way into buying off that LA, losing the experience necessary, and losing those wings through that means."Player 2: "Well, either way, these wings are pointless in this gem mine..."Okay .. maybe that wasn't very funny, but I think it gets my point across why I feel wings are stupid on dwarves. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />So what do you think of my suggestion about the spell-like ability by using domain spells?I don't have a problem with half-races as long as the DM is willing to open it up to a true interbreeding possibility.  I'd like to see a half dwarf/gnome.  Or a half elf/xeph.  Or a half orc/hobgoblin.  Why are humans the only race allowed to be blessed with being able to not be choosey in regard to what floats their boat?  If anything, that's a cause for the other races to hate humans right there!Of course, there are limits.  A half half-giant/halfling just isn't really possible.  I mean, it is .. but ... ewwwww.  Would a half half-giant/halfling be a quarter giantling?  Anyway, I should probably stop trying to be funny now before people throw tomatoes.</blockquote>

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