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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 7046320" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>I think that amongst many, Dex builds are regarded as better then Strength builds unless you want to use a two-handed weapon.</p><p></p><p>Ironically, the rapier actually needs a stronger person to utilise effectively than a Longsword.</p><p></p><p> Rapiers were paired with the main-gauche, but it was rare that they would be used in simultaneous attacks as per D&D's dual-wielding mechanic. The main-gauche was for defence and for when your opponent was too close for you to employ your rapier effectively. Generally you would be trying to keep at rapier-fighting distance, not dagger-range.</p><p></p><p> I think part of the issue is not the anachronism of them both being around at the same time, its the practicality of trying to use a rapier of said full plate.</p><p></p><p>Of course all this is rather muddied by the issue that there wasn't really a point at which rapiers just appeared. The longsword was always both a cutting and thrusting weapon, and there was a gradual evolution to accentuate the thrust, with cut-and-thrust swords for civilian use growing longer and thinner to improve their effectiveness against an unarmoured opponent using a similar weapon. The point at which these swords became the D&D rapier isn't definite.</p><p> Sort of. The rapier was a civilian weapon. For military use people would still be using what D&D would term a longsword as the backup to their polearm. Rapiers didn't see military use until quite a bit later, after armour was almost fully phased out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 7046320, member: 6802951"] I think that amongst many, Dex builds are regarded as better then Strength builds unless you want to use a two-handed weapon. Ironically, the rapier actually needs a stronger person to utilise effectively than a Longsword. Rapiers were paired with the main-gauche, but it was rare that they would be used in simultaneous attacks as per D&D's dual-wielding mechanic. The main-gauche was for defence and for when your opponent was too close for you to employ your rapier effectively. Generally you would be trying to keep at rapier-fighting distance, not dagger-range. I think part of the issue is not the anachronism of them both being around at the same time, its the practicality of trying to use a rapier of said full plate. Of course all this is rather muddied by the issue that there wasn't really a point at which rapiers just appeared. The longsword was always both a cutting and thrusting weapon, and there was a gradual evolution to accentuate the thrust, with cut-and-thrust swords for civilian use growing longer and thinner to improve their effectiveness against an unarmoured opponent using a similar weapon. The point at which these swords became the D&D rapier isn't definite. Sort of. The rapier was a civilian weapon. For military use people would still be using what D&D would term a longsword as the backup to their polearm. Rapiers didn't see military use until quite a bit later, after armour was almost fully phased out. [/QUOTE]
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