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<blockquote data-quote="BookBarbarian" data-source="post: 7064585" data-attributes="member: 6802553"><p>I don't think he's confusing finesse with light. They are two different things. Take the Handaxe. It's short enough that it can be wielded in tandem with another light weapon, but it's center of mass is far enough away from the hand that it takes greater strength to wield so it cannot be "finessed".</p><p></p><p>I see discosocs point as follows: If I have proficiency in Shortswords (or say Scimitars) and Rapiers I will always take the Rapier since the damage die is higher, unless I'm playing a specific character concept, or I mean to dual wield without taking the dual wielder feat. Contrast that with having Battleaxe and Longsword proficiencies or Halberd and Glaive proficiencies. Here there is no mechanically better option so I'm free to use the one that fits my character without making a mechanical sacrifice.</p><p></p><p>You could handle this by making more d8 Finesse options like you said, but like many I think that dex already has a bit of a leg up on strength, so dropping the Rapier to a d6 makes more sense to me. While I'm at it I might add a martial d8/d10 non finesse piercing weapon like a Versatile Warpick or the previously mentioned Estoc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BookBarbarian, post: 7064585, member: 6802553"] I don't think he's confusing finesse with light. They are two different things. Take the Handaxe. It's short enough that it can be wielded in tandem with another light weapon, but it's center of mass is far enough away from the hand that it takes greater strength to wield so it cannot be "finessed". I see discosocs point as follows: If I have proficiency in Shortswords (or say Scimitars) and Rapiers I will always take the Rapier since the damage die is higher, unless I'm playing a specific character concept, or I mean to dual wield without taking the dual wielder feat. Contrast that with having Battleaxe and Longsword proficiencies or Halberd and Glaive proficiencies. Here there is no mechanically better option so I'm free to use the one that fits my character without making a mechanical sacrifice. You could handle this by making more d8 Finesse options like you said, but like many I think that dex already has a bit of a leg up on strength, so dropping the Rapier to a d6 makes more sense to me. While I'm at it I might add a martial d8/d10 non finesse piercing weapon like a Versatile Warpick or the previously mentioned Estoc. [/QUOTE]
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