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<blockquote data-quote="Perun" data-source="post: 3373125" data-attributes="member: 6037">I think it's a combination of two factors:1) Before 3e, only a small (teeny-tiny?) part of the gaming community was present on-line, meaning that most times a fighter/mage combination was mentioned it was either in person or by actually writing it on paper. When talking, saying fighter/mage isn't all that more difficult than saying gish, and when writing, I suppose most people used the (&quot;official&quot;) F/M abbreviation2) Earlier versions of (A)D&amp;D had very limited multiclass combinations, and (IIRC) half-elves (only) could multiclass as ranger/mages. Other than that fighter was the only class of the warrior group allowed to multiclass, and the only &quot;arcanists&quot; were mages and specialist wizards (well, bard was an arcanist, too, but I can't remember them being allowed in any multiclass combinations -- but then again, it's been awhile since I really looked at my 2e stuff).D&amp;D 3e radically expanded the multiclass options, allowing for every possible combination. And it's likely the &quot;community&quot; felt the need for one word to describe all those warrior type/arcanist multiclass combinations. Unfortunately, they chose gish <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :P"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />I still call all those combinations fighter/mage, regardless of their actuall components.Also, is bard a gish by default? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Perun, post: 3373125, member: 6037"] I think it's a combination of two factors: 1) Before 3e, only a small (teeny-tiny?) part of the gaming community was present on-line, meaning that most times a fighter/mage combination was mentioned it was either in person or by actually writing it on paper. When talking, saying [i]fighter/mage[/i] isn't all that more difficult than saying [i]gish[/i], and when writing, I suppose most people used the ("official") F/M abbreviation 2) Earlier versions of (A)D&D had very limited multiclass combinations, and (IIRC) half-elves (only) could multiclass as ranger/mages. Other than that fighter was the only class of the warrior group allowed to multiclass, and the only "arcanists" were mages and specialist wizards (well, bard was an arcanist, too, but I can't remember them being allowed in any multiclass combinations -- but then again, it's been awhile since I really looked at my 2e stuff). D&D 3e radically expanded the multiclass options, allowing for every possible combination. And it's likely the "community" felt the need for one word to describe all those warrior type/arcanist multiclass combinations. Unfortunately, they chose [i]gish[/i] :P I still call all those combinations [i]fighter/mage[/i], regardless of their actuall components. Also, is bard a gish by default? :) [/QUOTE]

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