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<blockquote data-quote="jmucchiello" data-source="post: 3386902" data-attributes="member: 813">Almost. 5-8 levels of Fighter. Then dual-class into thief for Ftr+1 to 9 levels. Once your thief level exceeds your fighter level, and before attaining xp for 10th level, you can wipe your xp clean as start with 0 xp as a bard. Bards have access to druid spells (and technically study druidism) but take no actual druid levels.I don't know anyone who played a 1e bard except in games that started at high level. The pages of the PHB before the bard were used far more frequently. Those pages being the psionics pages. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Oh, yeah, the topic. Never noticed the term Gish before this thread, but there it is in the FF. No one has noted though that it is in quotes on a table where a typical lair of 21-30 githyanki is described. The entries include 1 supreme leader, 2 captains, 1 knight, 2 warlocks, 3 sergeants, 2 'gish', and 10-19 lower levels. Just a paragraph up from that is a party of githyanki traveling the Prime Material Plane. There, the f/mu is the leader. So Gish could be a title.Hey, Charles Stross also invented the Slaadi. Wonder what his games were like....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jmucchiello, post: 3386902, member: 813"] Almost. 5-8 levels of Fighter. Then dual-class into thief for Ftr+1 to 9 levels. Once your thief level exceeds your fighter level, and before attaining xp for 10th level, you can wipe your xp clean as start with 0 xp as a bard. Bards have access to druid spells (and technically study druidism) but take no actual druid levels. I don't know anyone who played a 1e bard except in games that started at high level. The pages of the PHB before the bard were used far more frequently. Those pages being the psionics pages. :) Oh, yeah, the topic. Never noticed the term Gish before this thread, but there it is in the FF. No one has noted though that it is in quotes on a table where a typical lair of 21-30 githyanki is described. The entries include 1 supreme leader, 2 captains, 1 knight, 2 warlocks, 3 sergeants, 2 'gish', and 10-19 lower levels. Just a paragraph up from that is a party of githyanki traveling the Prime Material Plane. There, the f/mu is the leader. So Gish could be a title. Hey, Charles Stross also invented the Slaadi. Wonder what his games were like.... [/QUOTE]

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