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<blockquote data-quote="airwalkrr" data-source="post: 3348771" data-attributes="member: 12460">Greyhawk.Evil elf: KeakDwarvf who doesn't wear beard: Cobb Darg (according to some reports)Grit: Iuz, Scarlet Brotherhood, Turrosh Mak, Great Kingdom of Northern Aerdi, United Kingdom of Ahlissa, Iggwilv, Fraz 'urb LuAnti-Heroes: Warduke, EvardThat's just off the top of my head. Greyhawk is a pretty non-Tolkienesque setting. The similarities end with the fact that it has goblins, dwarves, elves, halflings, and dragons. Orcs in Greyhawk are not irrevocably evil, they just tend to be savage. Dwarves are merchants, and greedy ones at that. Elves are reclusive and don't get involved in wars, especially wars against great evils like Iuz (see Celene). There are assassins everywhere (Scarlet Brotherhood). Iuz as a simile for Sauron is the closest thing I can think of, but Iuz is beyond Sauron. He is an actual god on his plane. And there is no one ring that can defeat him. In fact, the gods themselves don't know how to defeat him. Wizards are plentiful (although not necessarily common) and there are schools of magic in every major city whereas in Middle Earth they are basically all outsiders. Druids are all connected through the Old Faith.I don't see how that resembles Tolkien much at all. But if you want to do away with pretty much EVERYTHING that is iconic to D&amp;D except the actual dungeon and the dragon, then go with MC's Arcana Evolved. The only thing it retains is humans.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="airwalkrr, post: 3348771, member: 12460"] Greyhawk. Evil elf: Keak Dwarvf who doesn't wear beard: Cobb Darg (according to some reports) Grit: Iuz, Scarlet Brotherhood, Turrosh Mak, Great Kingdom of Northern Aerdi, United Kingdom of Ahlissa, Iggwilv, Fraz 'urb Lu Anti-Heroes: Warduke, Evard That's just off the top of my head. Greyhawk is a pretty non-Tolkienesque setting. The similarities end with the fact that it has goblins, dwarves, elves, halflings, and dragons. Orcs in Greyhawk are not irrevocably evil, they just tend to be savage. Dwarves are merchants, and greedy ones at that. Elves are reclusive and don't get involved in wars, especially wars against great evils like Iuz (see Celene). There are assassins everywhere (Scarlet Brotherhood). Iuz as a simile for Sauron is the closest thing I can think of, but Iuz is beyond Sauron. He is an actual god on his plane. And there is no one ring that can defeat him. In fact, the gods themselves don't know how to defeat him. Wizards are plentiful (although not necessarily common) and there are schools of magic in every major city whereas in Middle Earth they are basically all outsiders. Druids are all connected through the Old Faith. I don't see how that resembles Tolkien much at all. But if you want to do away with pretty much EVERYTHING that is iconic to D&D except the actual dungeon and the dragon, then go with MC's Arcana Evolved. The only thing it retains is humans. [/QUOTE]

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