Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
I hate Tolkien: suggest a fantasy setting.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Giltonio_Santos" data-source="post: 3348941" data-attributes="member: 36874"><p>I'm sorry, but I believe you're a little misguided on your statement. At least, I conclude you're judging Tolkien's role on the formation of the contemporary view of fantasy inferior to what it actually is.</p><p></p><p>For Example, the figure that Tolkien gave to elves is more than good-aligned humanoids of archery and magic living in forests. In D&D, I believe Dark Sun elves are the only ones which play with a really different concept, but you'll still see a lot of Tolkien's influence there.</p><p></p><p>Keeping with the statement above, I believe Eberron's vision of elves to be very in line with Tolkien's elves. Pointy-ear dudes of magic and swordplay? Check. Ancient, proud, and noble? Check. I’d say Fëanor would be proud of those Valenar warriors, and they would equally rejoice in the figure of an ancestor like him.</p><p></p><p>The same cannot be said about Halflings though, but anyway, D&D Halflings are already very distant of their hobbit parents, and Eberron doesn’t present such a great jump in regard to this, in my opinion. Dark Sun already had barbarian Halflings like a decade before… <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I could continue talking about the figure of Oalian in Eldeen Reaches, or how the first line on the dwarven race describes them as natural miners and smiths (not Tolkien’s creation, by the way, but totally in line with his vision), but I hope I was able to make a point here.</p><p></p><p>Despite loathing the Middle-Earth, you’re playing a campaign setting that is strongly influenced by Tolkien’s vision of fantasy, and the domain that his conventions had in fantasy in the last thirty years are essential for you to have Eberron today.</p><p></p><p>Cheers,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Giltonio_Santos, post: 3348941, member: 36874"] I'm sorry, but I believe you're a little misguided on your statement. At least, I conclude you're judging Tolkien's role on the formation of the contemporary view of fantasy inferior to what it actually is. For Example, the figure that Tolkien gave to elves is more than good-aligned humanoids of archery and magic living in forests. In D&D, I believe Dark Sun elves are the only ones which play with a really different concept, but you'll still see a lot of Tolkien's influence there. Keeping with the statement above, I believe Eberron's vision of elves to be very in line with Tolkien's elves. Pointy-ear dudes of magic and swordplay? Check. Ancient, proud, and noble? Check. I’d say Fëanor would be proud of those Valenar warriors, and they would equally rejoice in the figure of an ancestor like him. The same cannot be said about Halflings though, but anyway, D&D Halflings are already very distant of their hobbit parents, and Eberron doesn’t present such a great jump in regard to this, in my opinion. Dark Sun already had barbarian Halflings like a decade before… :) I could continue talking about the figure of Oalian in Eldeen Reaches, or how the first line on the dwarven race describes them as natural miners and smiths (not Tolkien’s creation, by the way, but totally in line with his vision), but I hope I was able to make a point here. Despite loathing the Middle-Earth, you’re playing a campaign setting that is strongly influenced by Tolkien’s vision of fantasy, and the domain that his conventions had in fantasy in the last thirty years are essential for you to have Eberron today. Cheers, [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
I hate Tolkien: suggest a fantasy setting.
Top