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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 9576908" data-attributes="member: 2209">Sure it did. Orcs and Gruumsh have switched alignments in D&amp;D editions.In OD&amp;D orcs were Chaotic and Neutral. No Gruumsh.In 1e they were Lawful Evil and LE Gruumsh lived on the LE Nine Hells then switched to LE(N) Acheron for the eternal War against Maglubiyet.In the Basic D&amp;D line they were Chaotic. No Gruumsh.In 2e orcs and Gruumsh were LE and stuck with the LE planes.In 3e they switched orcs and Gruumsh to CE but kept the planar lore of eternal Valhalla war with spirit orcs on Acheron against Maglubiyet and his regenerating goblins spirits.In 4e Gruumsh was CE but there is no LE eternal war plane Acheron in the Dawn War/World Axis cosmology.In 5e with the return of the Great Wheel and Acheron CE Gruumsh was back there. In 245e it is not clear where Gruumsh stands as far as I can tell.So if you want Gruumsh in LE Acheron to match up go with the AD&amp;D lore on orcs and Gruumsh.LE orcs were warlike followers, ready to join the armies of orcish warband tribes or of non-orc Evil leaders, anything where they could be given outlets for their aggression and bullying. LE Gruumsh wanted things his way in his pantheon (Iron Rule demanding strict obedience from his pantheon subordinates) and his followers and in the multiverse and tried to impose his singular vision on everything.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 9576908, member: 2209"] Sure it did. Orcs and Gruumsh have switched alignments in D&D editions. In OD&D orcs were Chaotic and Neutral. No Gruumsh. In 1e they were Lawful Evil and LE Gruumsh lived on the LE Nine Hells then switched to LE(N) Acheron for the eternal War against Maglubiyet. In the Basic D&D line they were Chaotic. No Gruumsh. In 2e orcs and Gruumsh were LE and stuck with the LE planes. In 3e they switched orcs and Gruumsh to CE but kept the planar lore of eternal Valhalla war with spirit orcs on Acheron against Maglubiyet and his regenerating goblins spirits. In 4e Gruumsh was CE but there is no LE eternal war plane Acheron in the Dawn War/World Axis cosmology. In 5e with the return of the Great Wheel and Acheron CE Gruumsh was back there. In 245e it is not clear where Gruumsh stands as far as I can tell. So if you want Gruumsh in LE Acheron to match up go with the AD&D lore on orcs and Gruumsh. LE orcs were warlike followers, ready to join the armies of orcish warband tribes or of non-orc Evil leaders, anything where they could be given outlets for their aggression and bullying. LE Gruumsh wanted things his way in his pantheon (Iron Rule demanding strict obedience from his pantheon subordinates) and his followers and in the multiverse and tried to impose his singular vision on everything. [/QUOTE]

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