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Message: <blockquote data-quote="theredrobedwizard" data-source="post: 3220311" data-attributes="member: 21340">Going back and rereading, I can understand your point to a degree.  Remember though, that those terms really don't all mean the same thing.CR: Challenge Rating - An individual monster's difficulty for a group of 4 PCsEL: Encounter Level - The difficulty of a single monster (or group of monsters) that make up an encounterLA: Level Adjustment - For PCs/Cohorts.  To balance stronger races, they get less class levels, but still count as a higher class level.ECL: Effective Character Level - Goes hand in hand with LA.  An Ogre may have a Level Adjustment of 3, but it also has 4 racial hit dice, bringing its ECL to 7; and as such, would be a balanced PC if the rest of the group were 7th level.  8th+ if you wanted said Ogre to have any class levels.HD: Hit Dice - This is realistically just a function of hitpoints and a few spells.  Most things don't really care about HD, and it doesn't really effect CR all that much.  Some creatures have lots of HD, but a relatively low CR, whereas some creatures have a large CR with less HD.-----But we're still cool.  Didn't mean to single you out like that for the baseless nerd rage.-TRRW</blockquote>