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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6253561" data-attributes="member: 67338">I'm not understanding what you mean. I've played a lot of different types of games, and some mechanics I enjoy and others I don't...   whole heartily agree, but none of the 3 GMs I trust to run anything even like pathfinder, so that wont matter here. One of those 3 GMs is the other player on Saturday night who is MORE against this then me. yea, I guess I've meet many players like that.right now we have 5 of us for Saturdays, and for the most part are more role player then wargamer.Now to add last night at my game I talked with one of the players from Saturday (the one that hates pathfinder much more then me) He is pretty close to just out right Vetoing the whole game. He sent the DM an email before coming to my house that said He never really wants to play 3e again, but if that is what everyone wants he will bite the bullet and do it, but pathfinder is nothing but a "money grab by a plagiarizing company working off someone elses work and he will A not support that and B is not interested in someone elses house rules just because they had the money to publish them." He then suggested 4 alt ways to run the game 1)Savage world, 2) Gurps, 3) DnD Next play test and 4) 4e DnDI did get him to calm down enough to at least discuses the idea of doing it 3.5, I brought up that we could call it a way  to play classic editions before the big roll out of Next all for the 40th, but he made a good argument to me that if we were doing that we should use those leather 1e reprints we bought.He and I did agree that the DM doesn't understand what we like about 4e DnD and those house rules where most likely his way of trying to throw us a bone. However not one of them really replicates what we like about 4e. I also see there is no agreement on how there house rules will effect the game. Some people say almost not at all and some think they will make it not work. I do know if I play a wizard I will get annoyed being multi levels behind the party, but if we don't limit casters I would hate to be the player stuck being the non caster half way through the campaign.</blockquote>

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