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<blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5525360" data-attributes="member: 78116">That's a sure way of ensuring it's doomed. Wizards have been pretty bad at supporting anything outside of Wizards/Clerics/Fighters for a while now. Look at the Runepriest, Artificer, Seeker and DDI Assassin who have all been out for a considerable amount of time and left to die. It's becoming pretty clear the idea that all classes should see regular support in 4E no longer exists.So if the Vampire is a limited on rails class now, that's exactly how it is going to remain until 5E is published.DM's are entirely welcome not to follow RAW and arbitrarily punish someone for spending something like 5 feats minimum (IIRC) to do this. It's not like vampire powers are very good (the opposite in fact), but at least this way some of their more neat stuff can get used. Especially in my games this is probably the only way I could see them being used. I honestly don't see anyone ever playing a vampire any time soon, unless they were willing to put in the work optimizing it so it was oassassin levels of bad.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aegeri, post: 5525360, member: 78116"] That's a sure way of ensuring it's doomed. Wizards have been pretty bad at supporting anything outside of Wizards/Clerics/Fighters for a while now. Look at the Runepriest, Artificer, Seeker and DDI Assassin who have all been out for a considerable amount of time and left to die. It's becoming pretty clear the idea that all classes should see regular support in 4E no longer exists. So if the Vampire is a limited on rails class now, that's exactly how it is going to remain until 5E is published. DM's are entirely welcome not to follow RAW and arbitrarily punish someone for spending something like 5 feats minimum (IIRC) to do this. It's not like vampire powers are very good (the opposite in fact), but at least this way some of their more neat stuff can get used. Especially in my games this is probably the only way I could see them being used. I honestly don't see anyone ever playing a vampire any time soon, unless they were willing to put in the work optimizing it so it was oassassin levels of bad. [/QUOTE]

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