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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6331111" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Yes, it'd make sense to have an Endurance check or have the gas attack FORT, rather than call for a save (saves in 4e are about duration, attack rolls determine whether an effect happens, saves how long it lasts). </p><p></p><p>For a party of 4, cut 1 standard or 4 minions from each encounter. Relative inexperience isn't a huge killer in 4e, just give them time to learn their characters, choose their actions, and let more experienced players offer advice (even offer some yourself now and then). </p><p></p><p>As always it helps to run 4e 'above board.' You don't need to hide the effects of the gas, for instance, after the first check, you explain the danger (some DMs might even explain it as soon as you enter the lower level). When a PC is in a zone or aura, it's OK to explain the mechanics of it. Be sure to check passive perception when the party encounters traps. That kind of thing.</p><p></p><p>If the dungeon goes too much for that 'old school feel' by advising you to use 'gotchya' tricks, like using the way a player describes an action to determine the results, or letting single rolls derail the whole adventure, substitute appropriate checks or skill challenges, instead.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6331111, member: 996"] Yes, it'd make sense to have an Endurance check or have the gas attack FORT, rather than call for a save (saves in 4e are about duration, attack rolls determine whether an effect happens, saves how long it lasts). For a party of 4, cut 1 standard or 4 minions from each encounter. Relative inexperience isn't a huge killer in 4e, just give them time to learn their characters, choose their actions, and let more experienced players offer advice (even offer some yourself now and then). As always it helps to run 4e 'above board.' You don't need to hide the effects of the gas, for instance, after the first check, you explain the danger (some DMs might even explain it as soon as you enter the lower level). When a PC is in a zone or aura, it's OK to explain the mechanics of it. Be sure to check passive perception when the party encounters traps. That kind of thing. If the dungeon goes too much for that 'old school feel' by advising you to use 'gotchya' tricks, like using the way a player describes an action to determine the results, or letting single rolls derail the whole adventure, substitute appropriate checks or skill challenges, instead. [/QUOTE]
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