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<blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 6440277" data-attributes="member: 6677017"><p>The problem with the spells in that example is that you won't have 6th level spells. You'll have 4th level spells with 6th level slots. I don't care about slots if I can't cast higher-level non-combat spells in them. It's not about boom--it's about being mage enough to <em>plane shift</em> into Baator and fighter enough to chop up devils with your sword.</p><p></p><p>If I want a fighter/mage who can cast 7th level spells I have to take 13 levels of wizard, leaving only 7 levels of fighter. That's 13 levels of d6 HD, and all the spellcasting I'm getting out of eldritch knight is two cantrips and <strong>one</strong> 8th level spell slot (to use for 7th level or lower spells).</p><p></p><p>Yes, it was a clunky system and I don't want to see them attempt to recreate it with all of its arbitrary restrictions and limits. I <strong>do</strong> want to see them attempt to capture the feel and benefits, which means feeling like a competent member of two classes at once. Obviously I wouldn't want them to be as vertically powerful as a single class character. I'd prefer something more along the lines of 70% of the vertical features of a single class in exchange for flexibility.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I would too. That's why I have to wait for a article that hopefully comes sooner than later. I <em>have</em> done something that worked well enough in 3e, and I <em>can</em> do something for 5e, but I don'twant to <em>have</em> to. I guarantee it can be done in under a page.</p><p></p><p>I'm okay with it being moved to web articles, but I hope it comes out within the first half of the year.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sword of Spirit, post: 6440277, member: 6677017"] The problem with the spells in that example is that you won't have 6th level spells. You'll have 4th level spells with 6th level slots. I don't care about slots if I can't cast higher-level non-combat spells in them. It's not about boom--it's about being mage enough to [I]plane shift[/I] into Baator and fighter enough to chop up devils with your sword. If I want a fighter/mage who can cast 7th level spells I have to take 13 levels of wizard, leaving only 7 levels of fighter. That's 13 levels of d6 HD, and all the spellcasting I'm getting out of eldritch knight is two cantrips and [B]one[/B] 8th level spell slot (to use for 7th level or lower spells). Yes, it was a clunky system and I don't want to see them attempt to recreate it with all of its arbitrary restrictions and limits. I [B]do[/B] want to see them attempt to capture the feel and benefits, which means feeling like a competent member of two classes at once. Obviously I wouldn't want them to be as vertically powerful as a single class character. I'd prefer something more along the lines of 70% of the vertical features of a single class in exchange for flexibility. I would too. That's why I have to wait for a article that hopefully comes sooner than later. I [I]have[/I] done something that worked well enough in 3e, and I [I]can[/I] do something for 5e, but I don'twant to [I]have[/I] to. I guarantee it can be done in under a page. I'm okay with it being moved to web articles, but I hope it comes out within the first half of the year. [/QUOTE]
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