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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Magus_Jerel" data-source="post: 129003" data-attributes="member: 3940">A quickened spell - in and of itself is an action.It COULD be a reaction - and would have to be done "in response to" another situation in this case.the text states "in conjunction with another action"...this "clear implication" does not follow - as the words "that you initiate" are not present.now - before you go off screaming that the whole idea is "over-powered" - think about it for a moment.1. I have to be at LEAST 9th level to even THINK about quickening a spell at all - and even then only a first level spell.2. Sure - a quickened spell can do a lot... but when you consider that a quickened "fireball"- uses a seventh level spell slot - on a par with limited wish - you would HOPE that they could do a lot.3. The idea that you can only "act" on "your turn" at all is bogus.  you can and do "take actions" - but you don't INITIATE them.  That is why it is called initiative and not turn order.4. If I COULD do this - it sure as heck would go a very long way to stopping much of the problem that is evident with LC ... yes?In short - under the "interpretation" that I am "proposing" - to start something you have to have the initiative, but if you don't have the initiative you can only react.  You can take a free action as a REACTION to something someone else does.There is a poem with a very famous British Poem with a set of lines...ours is not to reason why -ours is but to do and die -and so in went the six-hundred.The mentality which you are taking - is identical to that of those six-hundred soldiers.  There are times where what is NOT said is just as critical as what IS said.  Sometimes rules are stated redundantly - but sometimes - the fact that there is no prohibition in and of itself is critical to the idea of "balancing the game".You can get three spells a "round" as is - and since your opponent can't do anything to defend - guess what... three spells of that is sufficent to ERADICATE a PC's.  The fact that people used time stop just made it easier - because you could get a whole lot more than three spells -heck, using multiple time stops - you could cast every spell you had and then teleport away.If you take this interpretation - in ANY campaign setting - the moment your wizard has Time Stop - the game is over.  The wizard can just blast away all opposition before it can act.Scry - teleport without error in - Time Stop... throw spells.  by the time the time stop is over, said wizard is long gone.  Countermeasures Possible? NONE WHATSOEVER.The fact that quickened spell as a feat is around, and my view of acceptable use - has a tendency to prevent this.</blockquote>

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