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Message: <blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 3925507" data-attributes="member: 22424">Agreed.This I'm not so sure about.In the event 4e fails utterly, and someone else ends up controlling D&D in a couple of years (unlikely, but possible), I expect the new owners/licensors to put out 5th edition as soon after as they are able - which means we could see 5e in 2011 or earlier.In the event 4e is only a moderate success, but we quickly find some major and systematic flaws (more likely, I think), I would expect WotC to want to do a 4.5e in 2011 or so... but they'll call it 5e, and probably push it back to 2012 or even 2013.If 4e does as WotC expect and hope, then I would expect to see 5e in 2016. Scott Rouse has said that WotC's market research has suggested the optimum time between editions is 8 years, and I believe they will follow that.</blockquote>