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I hope 5th edition makes room for "Adventurers" and "Heroes".
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<blockquote data-quote="Iosue" data-source="post: 6005839" data-attributes="member: 6680772"><p>I like to think of LotR in terms of Frye's thematic modes, as suggested by Tom Shippey. They also provide a nice short-hand for different playstyles of RPGs.</p><p></p><p>Ironic: Hero is inferior to the audience.</p><p>Low-mimetic: Hero operates on the plane of common humanity.</p><p>High-mimetic: Hero is superior to others, but inferior to environment.</p><p>Romantic: Hero is superior to others and to environment.</p><p>Mythic: Hero is on divine plane.</p><p></p><p>LotR moves through the various modes. The hobbits start off low-mimetic with a taste of irony. Gandalf, Aragorn, the elves, etc. start off high-mimetic, and stay that way to the end of Fellowship.</p><p></p><p>In Two Towers, people get upgrades. Aragorn remains high-mimetic, but starts showing flashes of romance. The Three Hunters, for example, cover 135 miles (216 km) in 4 days, or nearly 34 miles a day. (By comparison a full marathon is 26 miles.) Aragorn also holds off hundreds of uruk-hai with only a magic sword and the force of his personality. Frodo moves up to high-mimetic. Gandalf the White is firmly in romance territory -- he can't be harmed by weapons, even the ones carried by Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli.</p><p></p><p>In Return of the King, the upgrades proceed. Frodo shows flashes of romance. Sam bounces between high-mimetic and low-mimetic. Aragorn is now firmly in romance -- he wrests control of the palantir from what is essentially a fallen angel, summons the dead to fight at his command, and comes out of a day long battle unscathed.</p><p></p><p>The Silmarillion, of course, dealing with minor gods (Valar) and angels (Maiar) is firmly in the mythic mode.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iosue, post: 6005839, member: 6680772"] I like to think of LotR in terms of Frye's thematic modes, as suggested by Tom Shippey. They also provide a nice short-hand for different playstyles of RPGs. Ironic: Hero is inferior to the audience. Low-mimetic: Hero operates on the plane of common humanity. High-mimetic: Hero is superior to others, but inferior to environment. Romantic: Hero is superior to others and to environment. Mythic: Hero is on divine plane. LotR moves through the various modes. The hobbits start off low-mimetic with a taste of irony. Gandalf, Aragorn, the elves, etc. start off high-mimetic, and stay that way to the end of Fellowship. In Two Towers, people get upgrades. Aragorn remains high-mimetic, but starts showing flashes of romance. The Three Hunters, for example, cover 135 miles (216 km) in 4 days, or nearly 34 miles a day. (By comparison a full marathon is 26 miles.) Aragorn also holds off hundreds of uruk-hai with only a magic sword and the force of his personality. Frodo moves up to high-mimetic. Gandalf the White is firmly in romance territory -- he can't be harmed by weapons, even the ones carried by Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli. In Return of the King, the upgrades proceed. Frodo shows flashes of romance. Sam bounces between high-mimetic and low-mimetic. Aragorn is now firmly in romance -- he wrests control of the palantir from what is essentially a fallen angel, summons the dead to fight at his command, and comes out of a day long battle unscathed. The Silmarillion, of course, dealing with minor gods (Valar) and angels (Maiar) is firmly in the mythic mode. [/QUOTE]
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