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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 6006459" data-attributes="member: 158">I definitely like Iosue's scale, it better defines the differences we're talking about here. High fantasy and low fantasy doesn't have to do as much with power levels as themes. Superheroes can be dark and gritty and antiheroic (see many Iron age comics themes) just as you don't have to throw around flashy magic to be "high fantasy." when forever slayer talks about lack of noble or legendary causes for adventurers, LotR is textbook "noble or legendary cause". Frodo doesn't start out being the savior of Middle Earth (well, Sam, really <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />) but his goal is no less than the salvation of his friends and all mortals, really. Conan and the frost giant daughter, or Conan and the Tower of the elephant never actually hangs the fate of nations or worlds in the balance - its whether Conan gets rich, or survives by the skin of his teeth, or just because he wants to see if the legends of wealth, frost giant nookie, etc. are true. Conrad Stargard starts out trying to survive in the first couple of books, and takes fame, women, and wealth on the way, but graduates to an epic cause - saving Poland from the Mongol army.(warning for those unfamiliar with the cross-time engineer series - epic adventure and epic Connecticut Yankee in king Arthur's court themes,  but epic-level misogyny undercurrents, too.)</blockquote>

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