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<blockquote data-quote="Tequila Sunrise" data-source="post: 5785572" data-attributes="member: 40398"><p>Not to be a buzzkill, but I don't imagine that working out very well in play either:</p><p></p><p>Player: I'm searching this room for anything interesting.</p><p>DM: Okay, roll Perception and add your elf bonus for secret doors...</p><p>Player: *Giggles*</p><p>DM: ...but you don't know what's there. Er, I mean, what may be there...</p><p>Other Players: Hey, let's help the elf find the secret door!</p><p>DM: Dammit, that was out of character!</p><p></p><p>Either that, or the DM has to mentally tack on the bonus every time an elf rolls against a secret door...which brings me back to an old issue with this: Why are elves so good at noticing secret doors? There can't be many of 'em in elvish forests. Are they an integral part of the elvish feng shui tradition?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Modrons are awesome. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> My last 4e adventure involved rescuing a rogue modron from one of the Lady's mazes.</p><p></p><p>I suppose the varied archon forms might make sense if some planar king wrote the blueprints, but I don't recall mention of such a creator.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem is that they're <em>all</em> elf-like, in the same way. I'd expect chaotic exemplars to vary widely in appearance and function. Like one kind shooting lightning from its blue arse, or something.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tequila Sunrise, post: 5785572, member: 40398"] Not to be a buzzkill, but I don't imagine that working out very well in play either: Player: I'm searching this room for anything interesting. DM: Okay, roll Perception and add your elf bonus for secret doors... Player: *Giggles* DM: ...but you don't know what's there. Er, I mean, what may be there... Other Players: Hey, let's help the elf find the secret door! DM: Dammit, that was out of character! Either that, or the DM has to mentally tack on the bonus every time an elf rolls against a secret door...which brings me back to an old issue with this: Why are elves so good at noticing secret doors? There can't be many of 'em in elvish forests. Are they an integral part of the elvish feng shui tradition? Modrons are awesome. :) My last 4e adventure involved rescuing a rogue modron from one of the Lady's mazes. I suppose the varied archon forms might make sense if some planar king wrote the blueprints, but I don't recall mention of such a creator. The problem is that they're [I]all[/I] elf-like, in the same way. I'd expect chaotic exemplars to vary widely in appearance and function. Like one kind shooting lightning from its blue arse, or something. [/QUOTE]
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