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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HeavyG" data-source="post: 78240" data-attributes="member: 431">Bah, Greathouse, you're just defending CRs because of your username. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Seriously, though, as much as I like to bash CRs, they get the job done for me.However, the rule that 1 character level = 1 CR is pure crap.Why ?1) When someone asks the game designers how to set the CR for a new creature, they say there is no easy formula, no hard-and-fast rule.  There is only playtesting, comparing it to other similar creatures and more playtesting.  Then they say "Character levels ?  Oh, THAT's easy, 1 level = 1CR, so there you go."  What ?  WTF happened to playtesting, comparing it to existing creatures and no hard-and-fast rules ?  2) CR assumes that when you double the number of creatures, CR increases by 2.  That's why every time you advance a creature in HD by 50%, it's CR increases by 1.  Is a pair of 12th level fighters equal in challenge to a 14th level one ?  I don't think so.3) Some monsters show it is clearly not the case.  For example, IIRC, the Solar can cast spells as a 20th level cleric AND has many other abilities, and is a paltry CR 19.I won't even touch the fact that the game designers have point blank told us in the DMG that defeating a 20th level commoner is as challenging as defeating a Solar.  Or a 19th level wizard, for that matter.This is a VERY poorly thought-out rule.</blockquote>

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