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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Axiomatic Unicorn" data-source="post: 80076" data-attributes="member: 1974">Fine.I will point out AGAIN that I never said the whole system SHOULD be thrown out, only that it CAN be thrown out.I have never called for any of your claims.  You are right that a real CR system is impossible.  So it is to bad that WoTC tried to over reach themselves.  You defend the CR system by pointing out that it can be worked around.  But the CR system claims to have a formula for everything.  I am not asking for them to publish a perfect formula, just that I wish they did not publish such clearly flawed formulas.  Simple enough to say:  Base experience equals class level times 300 XP.If the party faces a reasonable challenge give each character that many experience points.  If they face a harder challenge, increase the experience by 50 to 100%  If they face an easier challenge reduce it by 25 to 50%.  They party should gain no experience for an encounter which presents no real challenge.  A reasonable challenge is defined as a challenge the DM expects would drain 25% of the party's resources.  The degree of challenge should not consider good or bad planning on the players part, nor shoudl it consider good or bad luck.   Only the expected degree of challenge should be considered.There, a simple formula based on the CR system, but with no CRs.  As a nice side bonus I have completely removed the CR system's lame assumption that the party has 4 members.Now you will have to think about it every time.  But what is new there?  The CR system already has the whole back door circumstance adjustment.  So you have to think about the real challenge every time anyway.BTW, how was I supposed to interpret "(OMFG...the heresy!) _THINK_ "  and "... actually(*gasp*) still have to look ... "  if I wasn't supposed to think your were implying that we don't think?  Seemed quite clear to me.  Don't say it unless you mean it.  I don't care what you want to accuse me of, but I want to understand where you are coming from.</blockquote>

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