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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5852188" data-attributes="member: 92511">Now, see, I think that is a totally acceptable &quot;ear length/look&quot; for elves. No issue here.Well, no, that's not what I said. The elf ears in WoW, for any breed of elf, yes, those are ridiculous. And I will thank you to not call my opinions/tastes &quot;pathetic.&quot;I've yet to have a compelling argument as to why. I am VERY open to &quot;new ideas&quot; specifically in the area of art to be used in the next edition/iteration. But saying &quot;this is how they do it in X video game so it's good enough for D&amp;D&quot; is a, likewise, flawed argument.&quot;Modern gamers&quot; want to have elf's ears sticking out the side of their head?And, quite frankly, [everyone duck and cover, as I will after this post]&nbsp; I'd be FINE with alienating &quot;modern gamers.&quot; Since &quot;they&quot; seem to be nothing but &quot;rules layers&quot; and &quot;power-gamers/min-maxers&quot; who seem to think that is HOW the game &quot;should be&quot; played....so they &quot;can win&quot;, like, if they play the game by the numbers and get the SSSShhhhtuff they should &quot;are entitled to [on their &quot;wish list&quot;] &quot; because they're level X, they are similarly entitled to &quot;win.&quot;I guess that comes across as just so much &quot;edition-warring&quot;...and it really isn't meant to be...as I have no reason to war with anyone. I have my game and my people and we're all happy with how things are for our game. But, also, I didn't bring it up! All I asked for is decent elf-ears.That's neither here nor there, nor relevant to the conversation of what art should not be in D&amp;D:TNG.All I'm askin' fer is no &quot;crazy long elf ears!&quot; Is that so wrong?--SD</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 5852188, member: 92511"] Now, see, I think that is a totally acceptable "ear length/look" for elves. No issue here. Well, no, that's not what I said. The elf ears in WoW, for any breed of elf, yes, those are ridiculous. And I will thank you to not call my opinions/tastes "pathetic." I've yet to have a compelling argument as to why. I am VERY open to "new ideas" specifically in the area of art to be used in the next edition/iteration. But saying "this is how they do it in X video game so it's good enough for D&D" is a, likewise, flawed argument. "Modern gamers" want to have elf's ears sticking out the side of their head? And, quite frankly, [everyone duck and cover, as I will after this post] I'd be FINE with alienating "modern gamers." Since "they" seem to be nothing but "rules layers" and "power-gamers/min-maxers" who seem to think that is HOW the game "should be" played....so they "can win", like, if they play the game by the numbers and get the SSSShhhhtuff they should "are entitled to [on their "wish list"] " because they're level X, they are similarly entitled to "win." I guess that comes across as just so much "edition-warring"...and it really isn't meant to be...as I have no reason to war with anyone. I have my game and my people and we're all happy with how things are for our game. But, also, I didn't bring it up! All I asked for is decent elf-ears. That's neither here nor there, nor relevant to the conversation of what art should not be in D&D:TNG. All I'm askin' fer is no "crazy long elf ears!" Is that so wrong? --SD [/QUOTE]

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