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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 4311761" data-attributes="member: 10177">Yep. Then I discovered C&C and I am enjoying playing D&D again to the same degree as when I first started with AD&D. If it wasn't for the 3E OGL I would have quit playing D&D altogether. Fortunately a system was created due to the OGL that became the perfect game for me, and kept me in the RPG hobby.4E is going to suck the life out of you too. Its newness just keeps that from being easy to see. The only good thing about 4E is that it may wait until a higher level before it starts to feel that way.  So if you like to play between 1st and 15th level you may be able to stay happy with 4E. I like to play up to 30th level. 4E is not the game for me.As for the greatness of 4E, my reaction to it is the same as how I look at GURPS, Rolemaster, HARP, Paladium Fantasy, etc... Its a different way to play a fantasy game, but its not better than what I am doing right now. Not for me.So its fine with me that people like 4E. Just like its fine with me that others prefer HARP, Harn, Rolemaster, GURPS, etc...Just don't expect to convince me that your game is better than mine. My game is perfect for me. Play in your sand box, don't expect me to play in it, just like I don't expect you to play in mine.</blockquote>