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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6758707" data-attributes="member: 22779">I think you're being a bit disingenuous here.&nbsp; For example, I backed the Primeval Thule Kickstarter.&nbsp; Cool, now I've got a nifty new setting and about five modules and other goodies.&nbsp; Why would I go out and buy the, for example, Sword Coast Adventurers Guide?&nbsp; It's not going to help my PT campaign.&nbsp; So, I would argue that it does create fairly direct competition.&nbsp; McDonald's doesn't create and sell anything that would possibly be found at an FLGS.&nbsp; Kickstarter most certainly does.&nbsp; And since many Kickstarters aren't being sold in retail stores, people who fund Kickstarters may (and only may, I'm certainly no expert here) find themselves not needing to buy material from a retail store.&nbsp; Both a retail store and a Kickstarter are providing material for the same gamer.&nbsp; Not the same material, true, but, certainly competing material.&nbsp; For example, the Reaper Kickstarter does not have an option for a &quot;We like this company&quot; pledge.&nbsp; If you pledge anything, you're going to be delivered something in the mail.&nbsp; So, this, right here, is a direct competitor to a retailer.&nbsp; And, note, even though the Kickstarter is over, there are ways to keep buying those minis.&nbsp; And there are Backer Slacker (is that the right term?) options as well for those who come after a Kickstarter is closed.Claiming that there is no direct competition isn't really accurate.&nbsp; Sometimes the competition would be pretty indirect (simply competing products for the same game line), but, sometimes it's pretty direct.&nbsp; If I want to buy minis, I can back Reaper and completely ignore my FLGS.&nbsp; I'd say that there is certainly some overlap here.Now, again, is it going to drive FLGS' out of business?&nbsp; Nope, not even a little.&nbsp; But, the issue at hand, that originally spawned this tangent, was the idea that WOTC should do Kickstarters to produce more product.&nbsp; But, WotC has been absolutely adamant about supporting retailers.&nbsp; They're not interested in getting 1000 backers (which is about what PT got).&nbsp; They're interested in selling 100 thousand copies of a book.&nbsp; Kickstarter isn't going to work for that model.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6758707, member: 22779"] I think you're being a bit disingenuous here. For example, I backed the Primeval Thule Kickstarter. Cool, now I've got a nifty new setting and about five modules and other goodies. Why would I go out and buy the, for example, Sword Coast Adventurers Guide? It's not going to help my PT campaign. So, I would argue that it does create fairly direct competition. McDonald's doesn't create and sell anything that would possibly be found at an FLGS. Kickstarter most certainly does. And since many Kickstarters aren't being sold in retail stores, people who fund Kickstarters may (and only may, I'm certainly no expert here) find themselves not needing to buy material from a retail store. Both a retail store and a Kickstarter are providing material for the same gamer. Not the same material, true, but, certainly competing material. For example, the Reaper Kickstarter does not have an option for a "We like this company" pledge. If you pledge anything, you're going to be delivered something in the mail. So, this, right here, is a direct competitor to a retailer. And, note, even though the Kickstarter is over, there are ways to keep buying those minis. And there are Backer Slacker (is that the right term?) options as well for those who come after a Kickstarter is closed. Claiming that there is no direct competition isn't really accurate. Sometimes the competition would be pretty indirect (simply competing products for the same game line), but, sometimes it's pretty direct. If I want to buy minis, I can back Reaper and completely ignore my FLGS. I'd say that there is certainly some overlap here. Now, again, is it going to drive FLGS' out of business? Nope, not even a little. But, the issue at hand, that originally spawned this tangent, was the idea that WOTC should do Kickstarters to produce more product. But, WotC has been absolutely adamant about supporting retailers. They're not interested in getting 1000 backers (which is about what PT got). They're interested in selling 100 thousand copies of a book. Kickstarter isn't going to work for that model. [/QUOTE]

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